Weight loss

Mary it is so good to have you here! I am really sorry about your pain level.
It really stinks that you have the thumbs up to eat and don't have the chompers
to do it now! Hopefully the swelling will go down, and your teeth will fit in
perfectly. I am glad that your husband has been accomodating to you during this
time.
I am also sorry that you have a sloppy roomie. I love my cats, but i can not
stand their hair so we are constantly cleaning up after them...I can not imagine
just letting it go - especially when there is someone else in the house. (a sick
someone to boot!)
Please let us know how you are feeling. OH, before I forget, your weight loss
ROCKS OUT LOUD! I am sure that once you heal up you will start losing again.
Can you eat "frozen" protien shakes? That will fill the tummy and may actually
help take some of the swelling down.
Lisa A
hunnybear_mo2001 <hunnybear713@...
Well, I finally made it to the group. I was sorry to hear everything
that has gone on with the other group and hopefully things will
straighten out in time.
As you guys know, I have kept in touch with Pat and that has been
wonderful to know I wasn't forgotten about :-)
As you may remember I had to have oral surgery last Saturday to remove
excess gum on the top so my denture fit better. Then they were going
to put a liner in it so it doesn't happen again.. well they removed
the gum and oh my God does it hurt. It hurts worse I think at times
than my surgery did. I went back on Monday and they gave me an
injection to calm it down a bit but once that wore off it was back
again. I went to work on Tuesday and made it 2 hours and had to
leave. They gave me Wednesday off and I worked yesterday and today
but it wasn't easy answering the phones when your mouth hurts. I
survived but didn't work late either night. I told myself the OT
wasn't worth the pain I was in although I am working Saturday and then
next week starting at 7 am.
I got side tracked again.. lol.. I kept trying to get my Lortabs
refilled and they didn't want to help me but finally called in 6 as
long as I came to see them the next morning so I did on Wednesday. He
couldn't do anything for me because I was still so swollen and said he
was surprised I was that bad. I am going back to the surgeon tomorrow
morning for a follow up and to have him look at it. I think he missed
a spot that he should have removed so we will find out tomorrow. I
again go to my regular dentist on Thursday and hopefully they will put
the liner in then. As you can tell, it hasn't been a fun week for me.
My husband has been great through it all though. He took me to have
the surgery.. I stayed with him the entire weekend and left Monday,
went back Tuesday afternoon and left again Wednesday evening and I am
going back up Saturday afternoon. I actually enjoy going there to get
peace and quiet and get away from the animals. They are great, don't
get me wrong but I get tired of them after awhile and tired of the
hair all over the place.. my roommate doesn't keep it very clean...
As for my weight loss, I am down 115 lbs now. I am down to 181 from
187 when I started this mess. I am just now being able to eat solid
foods again even though it hurts I manage. I have been very surprised
I didn't loose more but I guess my body thought I was trying to starve
it and held on for dear life.
Well, I guess I have talked long enough. Very glad to be a member of
the new group and to be back. With my schedule the way it is at work,
I will get online as I can but will try and stay up on what everyone
is doing.
Hope all is well with the new people.. those that have had surgery and
are waiting for their time to take their place on the Loser's Bench.
All the best,
Mary in KY
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/181/140
BS/ SW/ CW/ GW
Lisa
284/271/217/135

Well, I finally made it to the group. I was sorry to hear everything
that has gone on with the other group and hopefully things will
straighten out in time.
As you guys know, I have kept in touch with Pat and that has been
wonderful to know I wasn't forgotten about :-)
As you may remember I had to have oral surgery last Saturday to remove
excess gum on the top so my denture fit better. Then they were going
to put a liner in it so it doesn't happen again.. well they removed
the gum and oh my God does it hurt. It hurts worse I think at times
than my surgery did. I went back on Monday and they gave me an
injection to calm it down a bit but once that wore off it was back
again. I went to work on Tuesday and made it 2 hours and had to
leave. They gave me Wednesday off and I worked yesterday and today
but it wasn't easy answering the phones when your mouth hurts. I
survived but didn't work late either night. I told myself the OT
wasn't worth the pain I was in although I am working Saturday and then
next week starting at 7 am.
I got side tracked again.. lol.. I kept trying to get my Lortabs
refilled and they didn't want to help me but finally called in 6 as
long as I came to see them the next morning so I did on Wednesday. He
couldn't do anything for me because I was still so swollen and said he
was surprised I was that bad. I am going back to the surgeon tomorrow
morning for a follow up and to have him look at it. I think he missed
a spot that he should have removed so we will find out tomorrow. I
again go to my regular dentist on Thursday and hopefully they will put
the liner in then. As you can tell, it hasn't been a fun week for me.
My husband has been great through it all though. He took me to have
the surgery.. I stayed with him the entire weekend and left Monday,
went back Tuesday afternoon and left again Wednesday evening and I am
going back up Saturday afternoon. I actually enjoy going there to get
peace and quiet and get away from the animals. They are great, don't
get me wrong but I get tired of them after awhile and tired of the
hair all over the place.. my roommate doesn't keep it very clean...
As for my weight loss, I am down 115 lbs now. I am down to 181 from
187 when I started this mess. I am just now being able to eat solid
foods again even though it hurts I manage. I have been very surprised
I didn't loose more but I guess my body thought I was trying to starve
it and held on for dear life.
Well, I guess I have talked long enough. Very glad to be a member of
the new group and to be back. With my schedule the way it is at work,
I will get online as I can but will try and stay up on what everyone
is doing.
Hope all is well with the new people.. those that have had surgery and
are waiting for their time to take their place on the Loser's Bench.
All the best,
Mary in KY
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/181/140
BS/ SW/ CW/ GW

Happy birthday Ally

Happy Birthday Ally may the year ahead be an awesome one for you...
which it sounds like it will.
Beth

Hi there, as I mentioned in my other post having a bad acid day. been sitting
here all morning nauseous with a lump in my chest/throat. Anyway My Dr. just
called me and asked me how long has the new symptoms been going on, she's
concerned so she is going to refer me to Gastro doctor. She did say I can get
the Protonix and start on that. So that's good but I hate all this doctor
stuff, tired of it all. even though I know my decision for surgery means more
doctor appointments galore. just tired of it, that's all.
QUESTION?? IN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS DO THEY AUTOMATICALLY REFER YOU FOR
SLEEP APNEA TEST? I KNOW I HAVE IT, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN TESTED SO I'M JUST
WONDERING. thanks.
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

Paula, you have to post pictures of your babies. it's awesome when you can have
kids and do well by them, has anyone seen the Duggar Family on cable! some say
why so many, I say why not, if you can have them, afford them and care for them
yourself, go for it. yes i know we're overpopulated, I guess, but oh well.
Children are our blessing and legacy. Hats off to you Paula for homeschooling
your children. Once you get it all organized you'll be okay with your eating,
just remember to take care of yourself first, without you it all falls apart!
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR ALLY......
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!! ..... and many more!
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

I just wanted to share this with the gang. I have had a bad bad right knee for
years, it started out bad from a fall, had arthroscopic surgery and it didn't
help. of course, the weight doesn't help either. anywho, I've had the knee
deteriorating now for 14 years. last year i got cortisone and it worked a
little (actually got it on both knees, cause now left one has arthritis) My
right knee has no cartilage from the injury and the arthritis, can't walk an
inch. So, after cortisone just worked for about 3 months I have had it, I
finally said cut it open, do whatever you have to do. doctors have been putting
off knee replacement because I've been too young, still am..
Anyway, my ortho told me let's try injection therapy instead of surgery, lets
make surgery last option. So I went through the injection therapy, 3 shots
spread 3 weeks apart. It is called viscosupplementation, one of the brand names
is Synvisc, they gave me a different kind. What they do is
1st - injection pain killer
2nd- insert needle (OUCH OUCH) to extract fluid (I didn't have any) leave that
sucker in there and
3rd-insert medication through plunger (we're not talking a slim tiny regular
needle, we're talking a holy mother needle) the medication is a gel, that is
plunged into the knee, between the bones. and yes it hurts. you feel the
pressure of the gel going in. and the needle coming out. BUT after that you're
just a little sore and thats it.
I completed my 3rd treatment on 10/16, just a lil over 2 weeks ago and the
reason I am recommending this is because I actually do feel so much better. My
knee was destroyed (many of you know the feeling) could not walk anything at
all, locks at night, can't sleep, a mess. Since the last injection I've felt
pretty much nothing. The ortho says it will take about 6 weeks to kick in and
should last 1 year. if it works for the year, they can repeat. if it doesn't
last, then only surgery will help.
Anyway, some of you may have heard about this already, if you haven't or if you
have but aren't sure about it. I recommend it, it will change your life, I am so
glad I did this because now I need to be okay to walk, I also went on Tuesday
this week and got cortisone in my foot. still a little sore but I am so ready
to go!!!
thanks for listening
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

Hi there, well it's been a rough morning and I am so glad it's TGIF. Woke up
with pain in neck (literally) stayed in bed a little late debating whether to go
to work. finally decided I better, go outside to leave, FLAT TIRE!!!! Grrrrr!
told my son you deal with it later, i'm walking to bus (I've been trying to walk
everyday, need to lose that 10%) bus comes get to the train and it's late 25
minutes!!! mind you, I'm standing waiting for it! finally arrives and it putt,
putts all the way to San Francisco. I was going to scream. I knew I should
have just stayed in bed. Get to work finally and NO COFFEE is made. had to go
back outside and buy coffee. to top it off I have acid reflux right from the
start of the day without even eating anything, I feel that lump in my throat.
I'm annoyed.
ANYWAYS!!! just wanted to get that out of my system, but the reason for email is
I posted some more pics I took yesterday, it was my baby boys 19th b/d yesterday
and I took a couple of pics. The 3 kids are my babies, and the pic with the 4th
kid is the lil mommy to be. They are waiting for moderator to approve, Miss
Ally?? I know you're partying today, no worries, approve when you can.
so this is my vent for today, I hope everyone has a BLAST this weekend!
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

You might want to experiment with different kinds of cheese... if one taste or
texture doesn't work for you, another one might. Fresh mozarella is much softer
than the "regular kind", or maybe you would like brie or camembert... I prefer
them room temp because they are softer. Maybe try melting ricotta cheese with a
little sugar free spaghetti or marinara sauce for lasagna flavor... Some people
cannot tolerate scrambled eggs, but do well with fried. Not sure why... but
that's what they say.
Pat
paula <manyblessings@...
I tried yogurt and it tastes too sweet to me right now. Eggs are not
going well and even the thought of cottage cheese.........bleck. Last
night I made canned chili for the family and took some of the liquid
from the chili, mixed in cheese and had a few bites of that. Believe it
or not, that went down and stayed.
Paula

Lisa, We homeschooled until last year. My mother in law became
terminally ill and I was unable to keep up with schooling and care for
her at the same time. We put all the school age children in school at
that time. We will be transitioning the children home this year. We have
already brought our 16 year old and the 15 year old will be coming home
at Christmas time. The best thing about them going to school for this
time is I only have 1 school age nonreader left ~woohoo~. I don't like
the DC in school, but since this surgery is way harder on me then I
thought it would be I admit I am grateful that they are there for now.
Paula

I tried yogurt and it tastes too sweet to me right now. Eggs are not
going well and even the thought of cottage cheese.........bleck. Last
night I made canned chili for the family and took some of the liquid
from the chili, mixed in cheese and had a few bites of that. Believe it
or not, that went down and stayed.
Paula

       
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the teeth thing can happen with dehydration. How much liquid are you getting
in?
Pat
"cheryl.parks" <cheryl.parks@...
I have an appetite. I am hungry, and though I find food smells
absolutely wonderful everything I have eaten so far tastes like crap!
Even iced tea and water are icky. So, the appetite is there and I
will eat because I am hungry and I have to, but the pleasure is
definitely gone. I also found that my teeth also seem to be coated
with gunk. I brush them and in just a little while they are coated
with gunk again so I always have a bad taste in my mouth. It is hard
to describe, it is not metallic, but it is not normal. Cheryl

That is so true!!!
Naomi <nsmoschgat@...
the day and here is one!!
"Everything has it's beauty, but not everyone sees it." Confucius

I have an appetite. I am hungry, and though I find food smells
absolutely wonderful everything I have eaten so far tastes like crap!
Even iced tea and water are icky. So, the appetite is there and I
will eat because I am hungry and I have to, but the pleasure is
definitely gone. I also found that my teeth also seem to be coated
with gunk. I brush them and in just a little while they are coated
with gunk again so I always have a bad taste in my mouth. It is hard
to describe, it is not metallic, but it is not normal. Cheryl

Happy Birthday Ally, I hope it is all you wished and dreamed for this
year. Cheryl

I think we need some thoughts for the day and here is one!!
"Everything has it's beauty, but not everyone sees it." Confucius

Paula,
Welcome to the group. This is a great group and very informative. Enjoy!
Jenn

Lizanne, that's truer than you think. I think when we loose our weight people
will still treat us like the fat girl and we will still think like the fat girl.
A new circle of friends wouldn't actually be a bad thing, not that I would quit
a job I liked, but I wouldn't be as afraid to pick up and move on. Naomi
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
It seems to me that when you work with people for a long time, they
try to take advantage of you. It might only be for a laugh. Once we
lose our weight, we all should probably find another job. These
people know too much and will use it to their advantage. Just
Kidding.
Lizanne

Pat,
It seems to me that when you work with people for a long time, they
try to take advantage of you. It might only be for a laugh. Once we
lose our weight, we all should probably find another job. These
people know too much and will use it to their advantage. Just
Kidding.
Lizanne

Hey San,
You're not stupid. You're having a really bad day and need to vent,
but that in no way shape or form means you are stupid. You are a
very caring and compassionate human being who gives of herself
constantly. I wish that those that you give to so selflessly would
be much more grateful than they are, but we can't help human nature
as it is. I'd suggest to not give so much (to take away keys, etc),
but that's not in your nature to do that. But that doesn't make you
stupid.
I'm glad venting helped you some, and yes, humor will always bring
us through the hard times.
With the weight loss, have you written down what you're eating and
drinking? Sometimes the plateau's hit and they are really stubborn -
but they will end eventually and you'll start to lose again. Just
make sure you're eating what you're supposed to and that you're
exercising as much as you can, AND that you're drinking all of your
fluids.
Post as much as you need, San. We're here for you!!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/194/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Hi Paula!
Welcome! Wow - 8 kids - whew! Yes, I would imagine you are a bit
busy!
Congratulations on your weight loss so far! You're doing great!
How are you feeling?
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/194/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Yeah!! I've missed her too and so sorry she's not doing well after
her oral surgery. I'll say a prayer for her and hope she comes to
us soon!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/194/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Welcom Paula...I have a friend who has 10 children....She says that she is never
lonely and could never imagine life any different.! Do the kids get
homeschooled or do they go to public school?
Sounds like you are doing great with the weight loss so far. Are you have any
difficulty getting back into the swing of normal life?
Lisa A
paula <manyblessings@...
Since I lost the introduction questioner I figured I would just
introduce myself this way and try to remember what was on that email.
~rolleyes~ only I could loose a email........
Anyways, my name is Paula and I live in Stockton Ca. I had my surgery
October 8th. My highest weight was 363 and my surgery weight was 351. I
am currently weighing 322.
I have been married to my high school sweetheart Anthony for 17 years.
We have 9 children. Jesse 16, Skylar 15, Nick 11, Isaiah 9, Hannah 8,
Israel 7, Justus 5, Jedidiah 4, and Thaddaus 2. Yes, you read right we
have 8 sons and one little girl ~giggle.
Anything else you want to know I am more then willing to share. I hope
to get involved with this group, but as you see my time is limited.
Paula
Lisa
284/271/217/135

Hi Lizanne,
Don't force yourself to have an appetite. I would be grateful you
have no appetite, and try not to stress about it. What you should
do is force yourself to get your protein and fluids in, and your
supplements. These will help you stay alive and feel as good as you
can feel.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/194/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Since I lost the introduction questioner I figured I would just
introduce myself this way and try to remember what was on that email.
~rolleyes~ only I could loose a email........
Anyways, my name is Paula and I live in Stockton Ca. I had my surgery
October 8th. My highest weight was 363 and my surgery weight was 351. I
am currently weighing 322.
I have been married to my high school sweetheart Anthony for 17 years.
We have 9 children. Jesse 16, Skylar 15, Nick 11, Isaiah 9, Hannah 8,
Israel 7, Justus 5, Jedidiah 4, and Thaddaus 2. Yes, you read right we
have 8 sons and one little girl ~giggle.
Anything else you want to know I am more then willing to share. I hope
to get involved with this group, but as you see my time is limited.
Paula

OH thats is so cool Pat. . i miss her too!!! Gosh she must have had a really
bad surgery. . i didnt know it was that involved. . hope she is ok .. poor
thing. . give her our love and cant wait to hear from her !!
sharon xoxo

ALLY'S BIRTHDAY????? ITS ALLY'S BIRTHDAY?????
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR ALLY!!!!
(OUR FEARLESS LEADER)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hope you had a wonderful birthday Ally. . talk to you tomorrow!!!
sharon xoxo

YAY!!! I heard from Mary finally!!! The bad news is, she is
suffering terribly from the oral surgery she had. She said it is
worse than recovery from the gastric bypass. She can only
eat "slider" foods (it was gum surgery) and is down 115 lbs.now and is
still losing. The weight loss is great.. but not so much how she is
losing at the moment. The good news is... as soon as she is a bit
more recovered she will be joining us here in this group!!!! I can't
wait for that to happen... I have missed her posts. She asked me to
let you all know that she misses you and is thinking about you and is
anxious to join the group :)
Pat

Paula, I drink the crystal light watered down... it's much less sweet that way.
There are so many other sources of protein other than meat. Have you tried
cheese, cottage cheese, yogurt, beans, refried beans, or eggs? You need to
experiment and find something that works for you.
Pat
paula <manyblessings@...
Thank you for understanding. I can drink water and a warm peach herbal
tea. Everything else tastes gross. The crystal light and sugar free
Popsicles taste sickening sweet to me. My Dr says eat protein first and
then other stuff if you have room. Since I can not get down any meat I
am not really listening to that advice. I will try after I actually can
eat something.
Paula

Lizanne,
I've lost 75 in 10 weeks. I think that if you get yourself really worked up,
you will make it worse. Try eating tiny meals 6 times a day spaced way
out...like eat that string cheese in the morning...then try the applesauce mid
morning....then have some bean soup for lunch....then a snack...you get it. Do
it the same time everyday. This will train your body to expect food. Keep
trying that K2O too...try to drink it really really cold it is pretty good then.
I think the trick here is that you have to stop working for the food and making
that the focus....it is what got us here. Start making the food work for you.
Once you conquer the food, the weight will come off, and you will not be sick
nearly as often. I am living proof of this! It is hard, but you are here and
you can do this. I know that you can.
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
I am still having eating problems. I know it's like kicking a dead
horse, but I just can't seem to figure out what to do. I took a
string cheese and a pak of unsweetened applesause to work. I ate
MOST of that. I also took the K2O...lemonade to try. Used half a
packet of the K2O to go, and it was gross unless I held my breath
while drinking. I got maybe 3 oz of that down. Tonight after
aerobics, it was late so I went to Taco Bell and ordered a Meximelt,
which is like a soft taco melted. I ate 2/3 of that before my tummy
said UGH. That's it. I am not interested in eating. I am also
afraid of everything, now. I am even afraid to wish for an appetite,
because what happens if I actually get what I wish for. I know this
just sounds like I am stupid and whiney, like I should just force
myself. But for years I have been trying to lose my appetite so that
I don't enjoy food so much, and now you want me to just force
myself? Something just doesn't seem right about that.
So what do you think? Should I just sail along like I am and not
worry about an appetite, or should I be freaking out? Oh, and I lost
1.2 lbs since Tuesday night. 54 lbs in 11 weeks.
Any opinion is welcome, as usual.
Lizanne
Lisa
284/271/217/135

I feel so stupid today. I'm in a darn-near month long plateau with weight loss.
I am stuck at 45 pounds lost. It SUCKS! I was trying to be good and welcome new
members and congratulate those on their enormous success compared to mine but I
just can't do it right now--the feeling comes and goes and right now its gone.
On the one hand, its still a blessing...I have no more knee pain, back pain or
swelling in my feet and ankles and I don't take BP meds anymore but on the other
hand, there's people whose weight is just melting away with virtually no effort.
And then there's Rayshauna, my niece.
Despite my bad days, I am still begrudgingly glad that I had the surgery. I
really want to take and see pictures of myself---everyone says they can see it
in my face but not really anywhere else yet. If I were looking at pics of myself
I might see it too; there goes the problem. I let Rayshauna have my digital
camera a few years ago. I thought I was hot stuff when I bought that camera but
it turns out that I bought a really old, decrepit model. I figured I'd give it
to her and I'd buy a new one. Well, I never bought a new one and given the fact
that I have no real life to speak of it was just as well to have her keep it
since I never used it.
In the past, I never shyed away from cameras although I wouldn't be the first
to jump up if someone brought a camera out. My point is, I WANT to see pics of
myself and Rayshauna REFUSES to take any. She recently bought a new camera after
she got paid from her summer job in California, mine is no longer operable and
was trash at that point. She told me that her camera is for "special things"
like pics of the ocean and mountains. I've been practically begging her to take
my picture; finally she relented about 2 wks ago and took 2 shots but she
refuses to email them to me. Its always one excuse after another. And the
computer of course is in her room which all but limits me to getting online at
HER convenience.
Since I was in charge of the Fall Festival at my job, I asked her to take a
pic of me in my pseudo costume. It wasn't much. A store was selling these
headbands w/ braids attached and I think it was a bat on top w/ wings and
something kinda poofy or something. It was my favorite color: PURPLE so I wore
purple that day and I felt fabulous but she wouldn't take my picture. I am not
too fond of anyone at work so I'd have to ask someone there and then use their
camera for the pic. The ONE time I did ask, the silly woman only got my face and
not my body even though I told her why I wanted the shot. I am not too proud of
a person but at the same time I don't BEG anyone for anything yet I sunk to a
new low and more or less begged her and she still wouldn't do it.
A couple weeks ago, her mother accidentally broke her cell phone. Its
literally hanging on by a thread. Her mother is not doing well financially and
can't afford to replace it and it can't be repaired so I decided to spring for a
new phone for her---not the $300.00 phone she wanted but the cheapest they had
which was $80.00. I am soooooooooo glad I did not buy her that phone. She
actually told me not to get it, usually, I disregard what she says and I buy
things that I know she needs anyway. Some might say, you don't NEED a phone but
we've become so reliable on these things that I can't even imagine being w/o my
cell. Anyway, I'm pissed. I am so tired of these unfulfilling relationships that
I have in my life. Just getting up each day is enough of a chore, I don't need
all this extra aggravation.
She is 21 yet she's been w/ me since her junior year in high school. I mean, I
made her keys to my car, my last car. I held Bessie (my '99 Accord) in such high
regard but she had her own keys---none of my other nieces and nephews would ever
have this privilege and I freely share my NEW car and my schedule and my money
and my life w/ her pretty much openly as if she were my own kid. She's even on
my dental plan and I would've put her on the medical too if her school didn't
have a cheaper policy. Yet she doesn't really acknowledge my sacrifices for the
most part b/c in her mind, she should be with her mother so nothing else counts
in life to her. I apologized TO HER for calling her a bitch after the surgery
when she more or less refused to touch me or help me w/ any kind of sincerity.
I'm pretty sure I wrote about how bad she treated me. I am just in awe. I
usually don't get into beating myself up b/c there's enough people in the world
who get off on beating me up and I
shouldn't add to it but I can't help myself! I feel like an idiot. I feel
stupid. But, she's technically a good kid: she doesn't drink, smoke, swear,
she's not boy crazy, not having sex, doesn't have kids---she has never been a
problem.
What I want more than anything is to pick up and move near my sister Janice. I
have just about followed her everywhere she has gone in life. In Chgo there are
surely 100+ high schools but I chose the one school she was at. And then when
college time rolled around, you guessed it: I went to the same university she
did. Now, it was just sheer luck that we were both Biology majors and had a
couple classes together and it was also just luck that we pledged the same
sorority at the same time---now this one might have been some unconscious thing
happening but consciously we both seemed to come to the same conclusion about
which group we wanted to join.
It is the one positive, healthy relationship I have besides Dr. Bloom. I've
been in therapy for the better part of 23 of my 34 years in this life. Most of
that time was totally wasted by people who had no clue as to how to help me.
Finding Dr. Bloom was surely a needle in a haystack that I am glad I came
across. I suspect that if I were to move to Dallas, I would not find as good of
care as I have now and I most definitely need to be in someone's care
psychologically and psychiatrically. So, I am tempted to just pick up and leave
and just start over somewhere, anywhere but here. But, on the other hand, if I
ever want to get back into medical school, I am really in the best place for
that to happen since I work at the same school I once attended and I have the
support there academically. I'd be a fool to walk away from an almost guaranteed
shot back into medical school.
I'm rambling so I'll stop here plus I am nauseous. My barium swallow was
normal. All it showed was reflux, the barium backed up into the esophagus
although it did filter on down through the small bowel like it was supposed to.
The surgeon thinks its just a motility issue that will resolve itself over time.
But, I am in SO MUCH PAIN. The new little pouch just hurts like crazy 24/7 and
when I do eat, which has been very little this week, or when I drink something
and it hits the pouch, its just an awful, painful, ooogy kinda feeling. Dr.
Bloom kinda forced me to call the surgeon back yesterday so I am seeing him
tomorrow. I think its just stress but what do I know?
I can't write anymore. I need to go to bed. Well, one good thing Rayshauna
turned me on to was I think its called You Tube. I saw this hilarious skit by
Rickey Smiley or whatever his name is. I think its called I Miss Bobby or
something like that. Its a parody of the average funeral...I can't even describe
it. My point is that I am going to have a good laugh before I go to bed. I feel
a little better already.
San, 34, Single
No Kids - Zion, IL
Far North 'burb of Chgo
Lap RNY 08.28.07
Highest Weight: 370
Surgery Weight: 370
Current Weight: 325
Goal Weight: 150

I am still having eating problems. I know it's like kicking a dead
horse, but I just can't seem to figure out what to do. I took a
string cheese and a pak of unsweetened applesause to work. I ate
MOST of that. I also took the K2O...lemonade to try. Used half a
packet of the K2O to go, and it was gross unless I held my breath
while drinking. I got maybe 3 oz of that down. Tonight after
aerobics, it was late so I went to Taco Bell and ordered a Meximelt,
which is like a soft taco melted. I ate 2/3 of that before my tummy
said UGH. That's it. I am not interested in eating. I am also
afraid of everything, now. I am even afraid to wish for an appetite,
because what happens if I actually get what I wish for. I know this
just sounds like I am stupid and whiney, like I should just force
myself. But for years I have been trying to lose my appetite so that
I don't enjoy food so much, and now you want me to just force
myself? Something just doesn't seem right about that.
So what do you think? Should I just sail along like I am and not
worry about an appetite, or should I be freaking out? Oh, and I lost
1.2 lbs since Tuesday night. 54 lbs in 11 weeks.
Any opinion is welcome, as usual.
Lizanne

Hi Paula,
Have you talked to your doctor about this? Is there something he
can give you to calm your stomach?
I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. I would just stick to
broths for the moment - or whatever it is that you can tolerate.
You're still only 3 weeks out, so give your tummy some time to
settle down.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/194/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

awwww Lizanne, how sweet! I am flattered :)
Pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Pat,
You have a great mind. You never fail to see an opening and take
it. You are my idol.
Lizanne

And again I want to thank my online family for their words of
encouragement. It helps me keep going!!!!
Cheryl

Thank you for understanding. I can drink water and a warm peach herbal
tea. Everything else tastes gross. The crystal light and sugar free
Popsicles taste sickening sweet to me. My Dr says eat protein first and
then other stuff if you have room. Since I can not get down any meat I
am not really listening to that advice. I will try after I actually can
eat something.
Paula

Theresa,
Go to group website. Click on Photos from the list on the left. then click on
create album. You can then add photos from your computer. Hope that helped
sharon xoxo

Hi Everyone,
I am new to this group and would like to post a photo. Can someone please
help me out and tell me how to do this? Thank you so much! Have a wonderful
evening!
Theresa

Welcome to the group Paula!!
Your doctor is right. . your not eating enough so your body thinks its in
starvation mode and its holding on for dear life... . Dont worry about the lbs
at this point. . they will come off... just increase your fluids. . I tried
refried beans w/ some cheddar cheese and it never bothered my pouch .. I tried
Bean and Bacon soup and never had a problem. Stay away from rice, potatoes,
noodles. .if your pouch isnt ready for regular meats. . stick w/ soups. . but be
careful w/ creamed soups as they have a lot of fat in them. Lentil soups and
turkey chili is also easy on the pouch. . try cottage cheese, low carb yogurt,
SF puddings, and SF popsicles. . keep it simple till you heal a little more ..
and dont forget to walk. . walk...walk. ..
I hope i helped a little. . Let us know how your doing.
sharon xoxo

Lizanne-
I have tried the recipe. My fiance said it was "the best fish he's ever eaten"
He asks for it about once a week and doesn't really like fish. I honestly think
that the butter and mayo are what make the dish, but I use only a little bit of
butter and fat free mayo.
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

I had my surgery Oct 8th. I can eat next to nothing. My Dr. has me on
well chewed food, but I am still barely getting down clear liquids. Even
the smell of food makes me want to barf. To make it worse my weight loss
stalled and has been the same for almost 2 weeks. The Dr said it is
because I am not eating. Today I was able to choke down 1/8 banana. I
tried a scrambled egg, took one bite and decided nope, better not.
Paula

I am not surprised Lizanne! Your sense of smell and taste will really come back
after you stop smoking. I would not be surprised if you get sick on things that
you found enjoyable before because the smells and tastes will be so much
stronger.
My office went to lunch today and I am feeling the ill effects of it and I
only had baked haddock - but there was buttered ritz topping on it and that was
just too greasy. Then a team mate of mine had a chicken salad with cranberrys
and walnuts and the combination of that and mine almost sent me to the ladies
room. It is enough to keep you on track if you dont fight it!
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Oh Lisa A,
Yes, smells drive me nuts, and not good nuts. The office microwave
is in my office. I have been on the verge of gagging all day because
of the things people are warming up. I am sure the food must not
taste bad, but the smells are very distracting. There is no other
place to put it or I would have it moved from my office.
I have become more numb though. The first few times I drove into
Baltimore to work, I had to mouth breathe all day. That has
lessened, as long as I am in the office, I am okay. When I am
outside, it's mouth breathe time again.
Sometimes even restaurant smells can make my tummy yucky. I am now
overwhelmed with smells. I am sure part of it comes from the fact
that I stopped smoking before the surgery also. I just got a double
whammy.
Lizanne

Oh Lisa A,
Yes, smells drive me nuts, and not good nuts. The office microwave
is in my office. I have been on the verge of gagging all day because
of the things people are warming up. I am sure the food must not
taste bad, but the smells are very distracting. There is no other
place to put it or I would have it moved from my office.
I have become more numb though. The first few times I drove into
Baltimore to work, I had to mouth breathe all day. That has
lessened, as long as I am in the office, I am okay. When I am
outside, it's mouth breathe time again.
Sometimes even restaurant smells can make my tummy yucky. I am now
overwhelmed with smells. I am sure part of it comes from the fact
that I stopped smoking before the surgery also. I just got a double
whammy.
Lizanne

Lizanne,
What makes me sick:
rice--yes even in small amounts
lettuce
milk
yogurt
crystal light or any sugar free products
spaghetti with sauce
more than 2 noodles of any kind at at time
Fruit juices
pop tarts
untoasted breads
ice cream
anything to drink other than water
hot dogs (morning star veggie mini corndogs are a good substitute
though)
fruits (except baked apples and homemade applesauce)
smoothies
protein shakes
protein bars
protein supplements (except the protein bullets which are just plain
nasty but don't upset my stomach)
pancakes
sausage
Is that enough? LOL!
AND what makes me sick one day might not make me sick the next and
vice versa--so who knows!
Sheggy/Shannon

Cheryl-
I agree that you are doing wonderfully! I'm so happy that you're having such
great success!!
Lizanne-
I got an e-mail from Tiffanie yesterday. I'm going to try and respond to her
today.
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Oh, it's absoutely easier and i really hope that doesn't make me a bad person.
Geting on the scale every day was making me a sour individual. I couldn't think
positively about myself and the surgery and I couldn't bring myself to
congratulate my friends when they had accomplishments and achieved their goals.
Overall that was just a miserable place to be.
I can tell you though that I know I have exactly 23 days to go before I get on
the scale again....not that I'm counting... ;)
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Wow, wow, wow, Cheryl,
Congradulations!!!! I can hardly believe how well you are doing.
Are you young? You have done the best of anyone I ever heard of.
Maybe Tiffanie's husband, Bert (?), as well. Penny did great too,
but I think she had some down days. I am so glad you are doing so
well. Keep up the good work, but remember to sip, walk and rest.
Wow you are just doing so well that I can just amazed.
Lizanne
PS Anyone ever invite Tiffanie to join our group?

I'm just not sure I feel that it's realistic for me to believe I will give up
stuff like that completely and forever. I've been down that road
before...denying myself completely the things I love and it always ended up with
me back fatter than I was before.
That's just me though. A little taste is always enough to cure my sweet
tooth...since I don't really have one to begin with. I have more of a salt
tooth.
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Pat,
You have a great mind. You never fail to see an opening and take
it. You are my idol.
Lizanne

Ally,
Are you finding that it's easy to congradulate others when you
haven't weighed yourself 3 times today? I would think that
the "jealously" would not be as bad when you don't know what you have
done. If you keep congradulating others, you can hope that soon
those same words will be given to you when you announce your weight.
Am I right, or do you have no idea what I'm talking about?
Lizanne

Pat,
I agree 100%. That's all I can say.
Lizanne

Naomi needs to post a picture. . i dont know how beautiful she is either :)
Sharon xoxo

Lizanne. . I havent tried anything. . Nothing sweet anyway. . I havent gone near
rice or pasta. . I have had a few bites of a very toated grilled cheese w/ this
very healthy bread. . I buy the Sugar Free Candy and once in a while have a
piece. . One pieces is pretty much all it takes to take care of my sweet tooth.
. They have some sugar alcohols in them but not much. . if you eat just one.
Im too afraid to try anything that can get me into trouble.
Sharon xoxo
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242
SW232
CW186
GW125-130

Ally,
Im going to wish you a Happy Happy Birthday!! too now since i have to work
tomorrow and you may not be able to see it for days. . I know your going to feel
like this birthday is a new beginning for you .. its not like last year huh?
Hope you have a wonderful day .. Hope Richard buys you all kinds of neat stuff.
.
Im so sorry to hear about your little doggy... We get Raccoons here too but they
dont fight the cats and my dogs are too small and we dont leave them outside. .
they would be eaten by the wildlife here LOL Hope doggy heals quickly. . Use
peroxide to get the blood stains out of your couch .. Peroxide denatures
proteins and blood is a protein.
Oh and one more thing. . Im a Vietnam Era Vet also. .
Sharon xoxo

Naomi,
You are actually thinking about going gray? You are getting brave
aren't you.
Lizanne

Ally,
My brother had the "body" lift, or at lease that's what I think it
was. They cut him all the way around his body at the waist and they
cut him from his chest bone to his "public" area. He said it was, by
far, more painful than the open GBS he had. I'm with you. No way!!
Lizanne

Haha! I was just laughing out loud at my desk while reading these stories!
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Okay,
I need help and you all are definately NOT helping. I want to hear
no more discussions of eating candy, pies or rice. I may have added
to the problem by mentioning I ate a half of a roll, but this is not
good for us. I don't want to think that I can try any of these
things you all have managed to eat without problems. Now I want to
hear from the folks who have had problems or that little voice in my
head may win. Right now.....what makes you ill?
Lizanne

Oh Pat,
You must have been cringing inside. I also have a panty hose story.
I was wearing some of the control top stockings, and I will admit
that they were trying to hold in more than they were capable of, but
they were the only pair I had and I was 'required" to wear them for a
specific meeting. During the seminar, we ran out of something and
the boss and I ran to a local five and dime. While standing in the
check out line, the stockings started to roll. It started slow, but
the roll started gathering speed and made a mad dash down my legs. I
had a below the knee dress on and bent over and grabbed ahold of the
roll as it approached my knees. Now I am standing in the check out
lane, holding my roll of stockings just below my knees and sweating
because I am wondering how to walk out of the store and into his car
and then into the meeting place restroom to get situated. I did it
fine, but I appeared to be an idiot.
Lizanne

I'm at work all day, so I can't call to chit chat, but I hope you do have a good
day!!
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Jenn,
It all has to do with our heads. Even the way others look at us has
to do with people's perception. I told you all that I am doing water
aerobics, and my boss told me that if I went to every class, that he
would pay for it. So I had the instructor sign a paper saying each
day I was there and I took it to the boss today to get reimbursed
because a new class starts tonight. He asked how I was doing, and I
said that I thought it was helping me get more flexible, and in turn
that would help my knees, I hoped. I also mentioned that my fashion
sense would not be up to office standards because I was winging it
with second hand clothes and such. Well that was an opening for him
to lecture me on the fact that I should look within to see changes,
not hope so much for my looks to improve. When I tried to explain
that the fashion comment was for his benefit, I got anouther lecture.
Finally I said, you know that I am 53 years old? You realise that as
we age I am much more concerned with my health than beauty. I feel I
am beautiful, even if others don't....that is most of the time, not
always. He still lectured me about insude beauty, not outside. Then
I remembered that this man didn't even contact me while I was out
after the surgery, but he did pay for my aerobics class, so I figured
I would never make him see me for who I am, and it was no longer worth
trying.
I said all that stuff, just to say, that no matter what, some people
will always see us a "broken", no criticism intended, and that we will
have to learn, especially me, that we can not change their minds.
That's the hardest thing to swallow for me. I am a very strong
person, always have been because I was brought up that way, but some
things I just can't change no matter how dedicated I am. And that's
that!
Lizanne

p.s. In case I forget by tomorrow... HAPPY DAY BEFORE YOUR BIRTHDAY!!!!
Pat
Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Pat-
I know just what you mean. We had a costume contest at work yesterday and I won.
The prize was a big tin full of Mrs. Fields cookies and brownies. I graciously
accepted it, took it home and shared it with Richard, and then today I had him
take all that was left (which was all of it minus 1 cookie and 1 brownie) to his
coworkers. I knew better than to have that stuff in the house over the weekend
because now that I've figured out I could have a nibble it's all over! ;)
I'm taking my birthday tomorrow off work, and since everyone in this office gets
a cake for their birthday, my turn is today. I had them get me a carrot cake
because it's my favorite and I plan on having 2 or 3 small bites just to enjoy
the flavor and that's it! I'm really looking forward to it. I haven't had carrot
cake since my last birthday. I have a feeling I will enjoy it more this year
than I ever have.
My birthday and Halloween being only 2 days apart has always been a double
whammy!
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Hi guys-
Man, has this been a crazy week. I'm so glad it's a short one for me. Last
night I ended up at the emergency vet with my little dog Bridgette. She's ok,
but we think she got attacked sometime in the morning before we left for work by
some wild animal that basically tore a big cut in the side of her face. Since
she is black we didn't realize it before we left for work, but when we got home
our couch was covered with blood and the whole right side of her face was
swollen. The vet at the emergency clinic said she thought it was a puncture and
not from an attack, but after looking her over more thoroughly when we got home
and finding more scratches and cuts PLUS finding some small scratches and cuts
on our other dog, Angel, we're pretty sure it was a possum or a racoon or
something. Scary. She's feeling really icky and I had to hand feed her this
morning.
Also, a close girlfriend of mine's father just died about an hour ago. She
lives here in GA and he lived in VA. He had cancer and had been put into
hospice earlier this week. Please keep her in your prayers. She is driving to
VA alone to be with her family only an hour after learning her father had passed
away.
I may not be around much today because I genuinely have a ton of work to do
because of taking tomorrow off. As a matter of fact, I may be scarce for most
of the weekend. Friday I have to get my license renewed, take the puppy to the
vet for follow up, and go shopping with Richard for my birthday present (I've
decided I want decorative items to finish up my living room). Saturday we have
a Veterans Breakfast to attend (Richard's parents are both Vietnam vets), dinner
with friends and my birthday party afterwards, and then on Sunday my mom and
step dad are coming for lunch. Busy, busy. Oh, and somewhere in all that I
have to find time to study for my first college final which is next weekend, do
2 weeks of laundry, clean my house and buy groceries! I don't know how you
people with kids do it! I can barely keep myself running sometimes! :)
I'll pop in when I can.
Love to all,
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Morning!
I gotta leave here soon i gotta watch alora at her house today til 4pm but
if you like please call me and keep me from going insane lol. Heres my cell
lol...
Hope to hear from someone lol. Other than a 3 yr old lol.....
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I can't tell you how great it is to go to an office and not have to look at the
chairs and decide which one I will fit in!!!!
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I posted. One of the things I am
TRYING to focus on is how *I* am experiencing the weight loss (parts
that feel "squishier", parts that are sagging already, small
victories like noticing a chair in my PCPs office that doesn't press
into my thighs anymore) and how those closest to me (and most
supportive of me) -- my mom, my best friend, my counselor -- are
noticing the weight coming down.
Lora

Cheryl, sounds like you're doing great!! Don't forget, you still need to
rest.

My daughter bought me a knee brace that has an ice pack and when it is really
bad, I used the ice pack and elevate it. I will probably need a replacement
done after I get the weight off. Sometimes it actually hurts to use the ice
pack, but then it starts to shrink the swelling and it really helps. Naomi
Smidgies Mom <lisaatwell1968@...
to see you licking the brownie! My daughter does that all the time. I am really
terrified of buffets. They use to be one of my favorite things. Sounds like you
have it well under control.
Naomi, can you suggest something for my knees? I do not hav RA, but I have
terrible knee pain post op. You are right, tylenol is useless.
thank you
Lisa A
Naomi Moschgat <nsmoschgat@...
I am very happy to be back. We are really a team! Arthritis is definitely acting
up with the colder weather. I actually bought some otc cream to rub on because
the tylenol does nothing and I don't want to waste my amount of steroid shots
incase my gout acts up. Monday we went to a casino overnight and they had a
wonderful buffet. I ate a little tender steak with a little gravy to keep it
moist and 2 pieces of shrimp (well behaved) Then I brought over a piece of pecan
pie and a brownie!!!! I ate app 1 tsp of the pie filling and actually LICKED the
brownie. I was sooo embarrased, but it worked.. my sweet tooth had a cavity and
I could only handle a bite, but it was very satisfying. Isn't it wierd how
sweets have become a scary thing!!
Penny Drozd <pennyisnot@...
Seniors have to stick together...Sure have missed you girl. Is it getting cold
there? How is your arthritis doing?
Granny Penny in San Diego (where the air is finally safe to breathe again)

sounds like protein to me.....
you had candy and didn't dump???
Pat
sheggy1969 <sheggy1969@...
I really think that peanut M&Ms and Reeses peanut butter cups are good
sources of protein.
MMMMMMMMMMMM
OK--so I gave into the Halloween candy calling my name! First
Halloween post surgery. You know I ate that one peanut butter cup and
it didn't taste so good--didn't make me sick, but I really have no
desire for another one.
But hey, I tried to get that protein in--LOL!
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!!!!!! DON'T GIVE INTO THE TEMPTATION!!!!! or
go ahead, it won't taste the same as before surgery, and it may make
you sick, but if you like that sort of thing--go for it. LOL!
Sheggy/Shannon
See I'm in a better mood today.
June 8, 2007
375/285--YEAH--broke the plateau/?

I guess if the water is in ice form... sucking is probably best...
Pat
"Heather O." <luv3dbb@...
I suck at it!!! Always have!! :)
Hugs!!
Heather

Noooooo... that is the nerve that controls smooth muscle, such as the type in
the heart. When she was on the operating table they moved her liver and
accidently stimulated the vagus (not "vega") nerve, causing her to go into
cardiac arrest. They were able to resuscitate her though (obviously) and
postponed the surgery until she was more stable.
Pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Pat,
So tell me more about the problem. Do you remember? Isn't that the
nerve that sends the full/hungry message to the brain? Were they
going to deaden it for Andrea?
Lizanne

Lizanne,
You are setting yourself up. Just don't even try those things. If you don't
go there, then they will always be menacing and you will find better choices. I
think a little fear is the best way to go. I am terrified of most foods....I
really wanted applesauce with dinner tonight but I a terrified to eat ANYTHING
that has over 6 gr. of sugar in it...including a teaspoon of applesauce. I
don't know - I might be one of those people who has no problem with anything -
after all of the surgery and recovery why even find out.
I know everyone will probably get sick of hearing me say it....keep a food
diary. If you write everything down and see what is going into your mouth, then
the food can not gain control over you. If you see a 5 pound gain, get back to
your nutritionist. Just decide that you are going forward with your life, and
you dont want to look back. And remember, we are always here for each other.
We will all have ups and downs.
(((hugs)))
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Dawn in PA,
That little voice won all those other times or I wouldn't have needed
the surgery. I just think this is a fear we will all have until the
day we either die or give in to it. See I am also afraid because I
don't seem to dump from carbs. So right now I am counting on a hope
that may not come true. I hope that if I do fail, that my body
punishes me. I just don't think it will. I have dumped, but only on
cream of crab soup and lobster bisque. I have eaten rolls, only a
half, 1/2 soft taco, sugar in my tea.....nothing. It scares me to
think that I am winning because I believe a lie and as soon as I can
prove it's a lie, I will be back to my old ways.
Lizanne

I really think that peanut M&Ms and Reeses peanut butter cups are good
sources of protein.
MMMMMMMMMMMM
OK--so I gave into the Halloween candy calling my name! First
Halloween post surgery. You know I ate that one peanut butter cup and
it didn't taste so good--didn't make me sick, but I really have no
desire for another one.
But hey, I tried to get that protein in--LOL!
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!!!!!! DON'T GIVE INTO THE TEMPTATION!!!!! or
go ahead, it won't taste the same as before surgery, and it may make
you sick, but if you like that sort of thing--go for it. LOL!
Sheggy/Shannon
See I'm in a better mood today.
June 8, 2007
375/285--YEAH--broke the plateau/?

Hey Naomi,
I missed you. I love to read your posts.
Jenn

Hey lizanne,
I'm like you. I worry that in 6 months I will gain this weight back and that
it will always be a struggle to lose weight. I've already been worried about my
pouch and that I've stretched it out. I know that I couldn't have done that yet
but I still worry about these things. It's all head stuff.
Jenn

Reglan helps the stomach to empty faster. . I think there were some problems w/
it and they dont usually prescribe it as often anymore. . it doesnt decrease the
acid tho i dont think.
sharon xoxo

nope because i cant yet. . i have a good excuse :)
sharon xoxo

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But we could dump from too much sugar, not carbs. That's one of the
things that I have to watch. I just get a tummy ache when I eat any
type of bread or pasta (and I won't even attempt rice after what I've
heard). How much sugar do you put in your tea? I'm sure it's not
more than 8 grams of pure sugar.
I am scared to death to experience a sugar dump so IF I let myself
have something, it's a tiny bite and then I leave it be. I don't
want to know. This is, for me, where fear is a good thing.
Maybe what we need to do is NOT prove that it's a lie. Know what I
mean? It's going to have to be enough to just KNOW that it is the
truth and be done with it. Otherwise you will end up talking
yourself right out of being successful. And we WANT TO BE
SUCCESSFUL. We want to be healthy. We have to keep our eye on the
prize and work like mad at it.
This surgery is a tool. It's not the magic fix (as some that haven't
experienced it think it is). We still have to have willpower, we
still have to want this more than anything else, we still will have
to exercise and eat healthy. The tool is there to help us be
successful. It's not going to stop us completely - we have to be the
strong ones to say "no" or "no more".
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/195/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Judy,
Apparently Protonix is one of the most expensive medications you can
take for Acid Reflux, so if you have a giant co-pay, keep this in
mind. Second, Protonix is what they dripped in my IV after the
surgery. Apparently they do that for your BIG stomach, mostly. That
stomach was still making a lot of stomach acid after the sugery, and
there was no food in that tummy to dilute the acid before it hits
your intestines. Plus your new pouch is tender, and excess acid just
adds to that mess. I think Protonix is supposed to be very good.
As far as Reglan goes....one of my cats barfs twice a week after
breakfast. The vet recommended I give her Reglan. I had to give it
to her an hour before she could eat. That never happened. That's all
I know about it.
Lizanne

OKAY group, PCP answered me about acid reflux, confirmed it but she said either
I can double the Prilosec or try Protonix?? ORRR add Reglan to the Prilosec???
Anyone hear about Protonix or Reglan?? I'll take your advice over dr. they just
give the meds out, no clue! let me know so I can email her back when I get the
votes. :) thanks.
Judy
"Starting the Process with Friends"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
265/259/?/145
HW/CW/SW/GW

How does one create a signature with their numbers (I'm too lazy to
type them all the time!)?
If I include my numbers, will Pat put a picture up?!?!?!?
I started with a total of 185 pounds to lose to my goal weight, so
you'll be there LONG before I am... but it means a lot to have
someone else who has had a really hard recovery from open to share
with.
Lora

Lora,
You can beat yourself up all day about what you didn't do, but you
have to concentrate on what you did do. I finally feel okay. I
still have issues, but I can tell I am going to get better. There is
a lady in my water aerobics class who had her lap GBS on 8/2 and she
weighed 317 lbs. She has managed to keep a very positive attitude,
and that's because she had no complications. You and I had a much
harder time, and it is hard to read about how well everyone is doing
when it took us so long just to feel we are going to get better. If
I could deduct 9 weeks from my recovery, I would be where the lap
people are after 2 weeks.
So Lora, start listing your numbers under your signature. That
should help you see the change in yourself along with your wonderful
pictures. Plus I think you are taller than I am, so when you reach
your goal, I will still have more to go.
Lizanne
8/17/07
251/198.2/125

Dawn in PA,
That little voice won all those other times or I wouldn't have needed
the surgery. I just think this is a fear we will all have until the
day we either die or give in to it. See I am also afraid because I
don't seem to dump from carbs. So right now I am counting on a hope
that may not come true. I hope that if I do fail, that my body
punishes me. I just don't think it will. I have dumped, but only on
cream of crab soup and lobster bisque. I have eaten rolls, only a
half, 1/2 soft taco, sugar in my tea.....nothing. It scares me to
think that I am winning because I believe a lie and as soon as I can
prove it's a lie, I will be back to my old ways.
Lizanne

I am very happy to be back. We are really a team! Arthritis is definitely
acting up with the colder weather. I actually bought some otc cream to rub on
because the tylenol does nothing and I don't want to waste my amount of steroid
shots incase my gout acts up. Monday we went to a casino overnight and they had
a wonderful buffet. I ate a little tender steak with a little gravy to keep it
moist and 2 pieces of shrimp (well behaved) Then I brought over a piece of
pecan pie and a brownie!!!! I ate app 1 tsp of the pie filling and actually
LICKED the brownie. I was sooo embarrased, but it worked.. my sweet tooth had
a cavity and I could only handle a bite, but it was very satisfying. Isn't it
wierd how sweets have become a scary thing!!
Penny Drozd <pennyisnot@...
Naomi..Us Seniors have to stick together...Sure have missed you girl. Is it
getting cold there? How is your arthritis doing?
Granny Penny in San Diego (where the air is finally safe to breathe again)

I have cards for my surgeon in my wallet, but I don't give them out freely
because I would hate to hurt someone's feelings. I have given out a couple to
people who have asked me about my weight loss. I talk about my surgery freely.
It is not a secret for me and I'll tell anyone who asks exactly what I went
through...especially if they are overweight.
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

Good article Lizanne. . .very informative. . i think i might be a little more
than leary to go south of the border .. but thats just me..
sharon xoxo

Hi All,
Since you had the surgery, do you want to hand out business cards for
your surgeon to every overweight person you see? Do you want to wear
a shirt that says "ask me about GBS"? I think we talked about the
last one before. I would even hold a seminar on the subject if I
could find enough people who don't want to just shoot me for making
the suggestion. AND I had a hard time for the first 2 months after
the surgery. I bet people like Ally and Cheryl could be huge
advocates.
Lizanne

Sucking is good, but sipping is better...LOL
Granny Penny in San Diego

I can't remember names, but there was a guy in another group who had
plastic surgery in Argentina. He had some complications and didn't

Lizanne,
I think this is something we all think about and hopefully with this support
group we can continue to encourage each other with our healthier ways. And it
sure isn't easy is it? Makes you want to slap anybody who says it is..I suppose
we have to use this honeymoon period to change our eating habits NOW so that we
don't struggle as much later. Since we are losing weight we have more energy to
exercise and hopefully will stay with that also. But most of all we have each
other here to turn to for help.Please keep that in mind as we are all in the
same "floating" boat...
Love ya Penny

Great question, Lizanne. And yes, I wonder the same thing. Will
this last? Will the "I feel no hunger" stop and will I begin to
become as ravenous as I used to be? Will I fail at this too and gain
all my weight back plus some?
All I can do to keep away from those negative thoughts and to assure
myself that so long as I follow the rules, don't push my stomach to
the limit and over eat, and don't graze throughout the day, this will
not happen to me and I WILL be successful at this. We have to
believe in ourselves and know that we can win this war of obesity.
Now this is not to say I won't lose a battle or two (by giving in and
having something I'm not supposed to), but if I remain 99% true to
what I'm supposed to do, this tool will help us keep it off.
Now... I do have to say this: while my words read above are true in
my heart and I do believe them, there's this little tiny voice inside
me that says "that's bullhockey". It's this little tiny voice I
fear. I want to succeed in this; I want to be healthy. We have to
be as subborn in our effort as this weight is stubborn coming off.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/195/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Thanks for this Sharon!! I was trying to explain this to my 9 year
old last night. :)
Hugs!!
Heather

No, I haven't heard from here at all. :( She didn't post a lot before surgery,
but hopefully she will let us know she is ok when she can. I tried to call
again today and still didn't get an option for voicemail.
~Ally~
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/???/130 I am on a hiatus from my scale addiction for 1 month beginning
10/24/07
HW/SW/CW/GW

I suck at it!!! Always have!! :)
Hugs!!
Heather

Pat,
So tell me more about the problem. Do you remember? Isn't that the
nerve that sends the full/hungry message to the brain? Were they
going to deaden it for Andrea?
Lizanne

Ally,
You still haven't heard from Shenice? That's odd. Did she post a lot
before she had surgery? Was she compfortable with the group? Maybe
she is just too shy to call you.
Lizanne

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awwwww shucks... thanks Lizanne :)
pat
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
No Pat,
I am sure you will look lovely, triple chins and all.
Lizanne

No Pat,
I am sure you will look lovely, triple chins and all.
Lizanne

Dawn,
You are right again. I did chose this surgery. I knew it would be
tough AND for the rest of my life. Didn't know it would be as tough
as it was, but I am okay.
Now that I have had this surgery, I worry that it will work for the 6
months and then I will just give up and head back to that fat land
like I've always done before. I wonder if it can really help when
that 6 months ends. I am sure that's one of the 3 top worries we all
have (along with: this surgery won't work for me and will I live
through the surgery). Can one of the "long-timers" who post, let me
know about their "struggles" and how you are coping now that the
honeymoon period is over. Do you still struggle with food battles, a
lot? I don't mean just when you go to a party, but weekly or even
monthly.
Lizanne

Naomi!!! Hi! So glad you joined us here!
I understand the slow down on the scale. In 4 weeks time, I've only
lost 7 lbs. I was 202 before I went to Disney on the 29th of
September and here it is on the 31st of October and I'm at 195.
Definitely not the 20 lbs a month my doc told me I'd do! But... the
scale is still moving (everrrr soooo slowwwwly) downward, so we have
to just keep positive and no that this isn't the end of the road.
It's just our bodies catching up with all that we've done.
It's so good to see you post again! Keep up the great work!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/195/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naomi is back!!!. .I have missed you Naomi. . I want to
think that girl's name was Andrea Or something w/ an A. . She might still be
over in the other group. Are you still a member there? give her a holler if
you are . . i bet she will answer you. . I didnt hear anymore from her either. .
hope she is ok. .
Im so glad you are back . .are you able to walk Naomi? do you walk around your
neighborhood? its hard to get too many calories in in a day .. i think thats
why i am losing so slowly. . i did stay at 189 for about 2 weeks then i started
going down a little. . i am at 186 now. . how are you doing w/ the wt? How is
your RA now that the weather is changing. . hope your not hurting to much...
nice to see you again (((((HIUGGGGS)))))
sharon xoxo

Hi all, I am finally done pouting and ready to move on. Hope everyone
is well and doing great. I actually had a hard time moving on (I
always do) but here I am! I missed everyone in this group s-o-o-o
much. I guess this is kind of the "stage 2" for me. Can anyone
please tell me how the girl that had the "vega" nerve problem made out
with her surgery on the 24th??? I'm sorry, I can't remember her name
and I have really had her in my prayers and thoughts. I am on a
major stall. I am not a scale junkie, but t