Weight loss

I don't know if I ever got specific numbers from Dr M but I aimed for 60-80
by 3 months and now do about 100-110 for protein. Most people are told 64
oz of water and I drink at least 3 sports bottles a day which gives me 72
but I usually do more. In the beginning I had a personal rule to keep my
carbs between 25-50 a day but now admit I usually do about 75-100 and tell
myself I should go lower but really don't worry about it too much. In fact,
when I hit my one year mark I stopped totaling those 3 things in my head and
the last 3 weeks my fluctuations between high and lower are not as big so I
must be doing something right. I have to admit Dr. M is the greatest
surgeon and human being there is but I have followed the advice of this
forum about intake of foods and vitamins, etc. because it seems so many
other people had doctors who were much more specific. W

Hi everyone,
What exactly are the minimums of protein, carbohydrates and water
that Dr. M. suggests for us. It doesn't say anywhere in his folder.
I asked him on my last visit with him and he just said, don't worry
about that right now, it will be a long time before you are taking in
the minimums.
I know that I am not getting close to what I should be doing, but I
would still like to have a goal. I hear you guys talk about 80 oz of
water etc. Preop I drank at least that much or more. Now I almost
can't stand the taste of water, but it is hard to find flavored stuff
that doesn't have carbohydrates or that is not carbonated.
I am going to try some of the suggestions in the prior posts. I
can't stand tea, either hot or cold. I did try sugar free kool-aid,
but it is so strong.
Kathy B in KC

David.....
if you like mashed potatos but can't deal with the milk.....have the
person making them use some chicken broth for the liquid instead of
milk.....may not even need butter depending on your taste.
blessings.
joanne

Hi gang,
I was on vacation for a couple of weeks so I am just catching up on
all the news and happenings. I have joined the new group,
(obviously) entered my info in the database, and even posted a few

Hi Morgan,
I have been on vacation so I am just catching up on all the postings
today. I had some pain just like you described a few weeks ago too.
Thought maybe it was a hernia and I started to get worried.
Coincidentally, I was was in a minor car accident (I was rear-ended)
and I ended up going to the ER to get myself checked out. They did
a cat scan and a bunch of tests on me and turned up nothing - said I
was completely fine. The pain went away after about a week, so I
have just chalked it up to a pulled muscle. You should definitely
get it checked out though to be sure. Glad to se you are doing
well. I'm sure you'll keep losing!
Hugs
Andrea
P.S. Say hello to your grandmom for me. I hope she is doing great
too!

Hi everyone,
Ok I'm an idiot. You'd think after living for 30 years I would be smarted,
but oh no, I'm still stupid.
Last night I ate some mashed potatoes. Do you know what they put in mashed
potatoes? Yep that's right, MILK. And what's the one thing that makes me
really sick? Milk of course. Gah I'll never learn. :-)
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio

Linda, if you could write a review of your Tourismo Bus experience, I am
sure people would enjoy reading it. Feel free to post it in the Files
section. If I had known about the Tourismo Bus, I would have given it a
try while I was there. It sounds like fun.
Becca

Konstantin needs to let Dr. M know that he is experiencing a lot of pain.
I was only in the hospital for two days, so when I went back to the
hotel, I had nothing for pain but liquid Tylenol and I was not going to
take that because it tastes so nasty (I left it in the American Box). I
went to the pharmacy on the corner and I bought Naprosyn. Dr. M said it
was OK for Lori and I to take that. It lasts for 12 hours, so I knew it
would keep me pain free all night. I took it on Saturday then I took it
for 2 nights, after that I felt fine.
You should never suffer in pain. Talk to the doctor or find a
medication you can take.
Becca

I don't know if I just didn't read the files carefully enough or if I
vaguely remember someone saying to take the tour bus. Janet and I took the
tourismo bus for four hours yesterday afternoon and had a wonderful time.
Anna had her day off, and Leandro failed when he tried to twist our arm to
take Daniel, the van driver that picks us up in the airport, but he has
zilch English (remember pre-ops, Durval meets you with English, Daniel is
just the driver) and is not particularly friendly, so why should we spend a
lot of money to take the van or fairly much money to take a cab to one or
two places when we can take the very cheap 15R ($5) bus that travels all
around the city and stops at all the major sight-seeing attractions with a
tape playing inside in Portuguese/Spanish/English explaining each stop and
gives you a ticket with 4 stubs, meaning you can get off and walk around any
four of the sights you choose? And get back on the bus that arrives 30
minutes later. Just riding and people watching around the middle class and
upper class neighborhoods the bus winds through was interesting. The sights
we didn't get off at, we could often shoot with our cameras right through
the open window of the bus. Do you want a list of the places they stop?
What we saw? What we recommend? The bad points of bus riding? Here to the
list or in the files?
Linda

It's really, really good tea, George!
allison

Someone asked about Konstantin and I called him. He said he was dealing
with a lot of pain, still, and hated the taste of the strong drops for
making him nauseous. I suggested he talk to Dr. M. about getting Durval
over for a shot. He has been hanging out at the Japanese park and reading
only his personal email not the list. Today he and his wife go to the beach
Linda up in the middle of the night

Lisa.....everyone is different but have your mother stay absolutely as long
as she can. Not just for lifting the twins, etc. but you are going to be
tired tired and more tired. You will poop out easily. Some people return
to desk work and driving right after they sleep off the plane trip. Some
people need more time. But you are talking about mothering and chauffeuring
and house keeping and all the in's and out's of raising 6 kids. Yes, the
older ones can help you with the younger ones and chores but being
realistic..I have no idea how much your husband will help you. Hopefully he
will see where things will improve down the road but if you overdo and pull
something I would hate to have him be in an "I told you so mode."
I am probably twice your age and my recuperation was very different from
yours. But the thought of doing all the chores and stuff right after my
return home would make me cringe. And I don't think you will know the
answer until the time comes. Will you have an easy recuperation? Will you
bounce back? Will you have bathroom troubles, nausea, gas, etc initially or
will you be lucky to escape them? There are simply too many variables which
is why George always says those initials...YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I
wish I could answer you. I can't. But I can say in 3-6 months all these
worries, fears and adjustments will be behind you and you will be glad for
the rest of your life that you did it. I know I took a long way of saying I
don't know...but that is the truth. W
And no..you cannot pick up the babies even once if you are sensible!!! You
might get away with it....but what if you don't? Why invite problems?

hey, everyone--i've just created an album, called
'diane's saga.' you can see my progress, from age 23,
to my heaviest, to now. hopefully my daughter, arwen,
will create an album too!
diane

I was just wondering.....when I come home post op....do you think I
should be concerned about just being as busy as I need to be with 6
kids? My Mom will stay a few weeks to help with the lifting of the
babies (in and out of cribs and in and out of high chairs and car
seats and strollers....bless her heart!), but with the normal amount
of laundry and cooking and cleaning that is involved, does that cause
problems? Are ya'll all pretty much back to your normal busy once
you get back? If I take it WAAAYYYY easy and just walk like a maniac
while still in Curitiba for the FULL two weeks.....shouldn't I be
good to go when I get home? I have SUCH a busy crazy lifestyle here
on any given day, and I hope I'm not setting myself up for something
to go wrong. I am trying to be realistic...even sitting in the floor
with the babies, they climb all over me and holding them in the floor
is just gonna happen. I'm just REALLY wondering how much is too
much? Is bending or twisting or leaning changing diapers on the
floor too much? Will I rip something on the inside or is the scar
the worry? I just want everything to go well....and wonder if I can
pull it off with two babies and all that goes with running a
household of 8?? Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting the
surgery...I AM going to have the surgery, I just need to know what
you post ops think about what is not going to be possible for me and
what is reality? My mindset is always "awwww....it'll be alright...a
girls gotta do what a girls gotta do!" Can I REALLY NOT ever pick up
one of the babies for several weeks? Is that possible? Not just one
little lift when he's needing to just get put down from the high
chair or something like that. Just carry from the crib to the living
room? Thinking out loud...sorry. Any comments...I may need a
reality check!
Thanks everybody!!
Lisa in TX

Diane.....Arwen may have sent her letter to Dr. M to us by mistake but it
isn't often I get so see an initial letter to him.....and hear someone's
first thoughts about how they feel directly, I, for one, really enjoyed
seeing Arwen's letter. In some ways it was almost too personal for an
outsider to read and in another her thoughts were so universal. You've got
a wonderful daughter. W

Arwen,
What a pretty name! I read your 'note' to Dr. M, and altho we don't
get to do that very often, I was touched by your story. You
have "youth" on your side...I am older than dirt! <g
you will see all your dreams come true, be the person you want to be,
and live a long and healthy life. Our kids love us any way we are,
but they often don't know us as anything else, but obese.
Nice to have you aboard the group.. you'll enjoy everyone and learn
so much. People are so supportive and encouraging.
Bev ~
Surgery date 9/9

http://store.wuyirocktea.com/ I hear this is very good tea, it is
a concentrate that you add to water. it comes in differnt flavors,
but i do not know if it has the oscaulates(sp) you talked about
steph

Neither my ex husband nor my daughter drink coffee or tea and have never
been obese or needed a DS but they both have a long history of kidney
stones. Stones can be either calcium or uric acid and the type of stone
does a lot to determine what to avoid or what meds to take to try to prevent
them. Except for my diet Pepsi I don't think anyone in our family as ever
liked caffeine products. Nothing against it I just don't like coffee or tea
and when I have guests I offer them coffee bags or send them to Starbucks.
I had a coffee pot when I got married but when I moved here years ago and
had such a tiny kitchen with hardly any counter space I junked it. W

You won't stick out like a sore thumb Lisa.....we forget people are new from
time to time.
YMMV = Your miles may vary which is what you hear on every car commercial.
In other words everyone is different no matter what the statistics say.
Never be afraid to ask. W

Arwen....what a beautiful letter to Dr. M. I had my surgery a year ago and
am thrilled I did it. I am 64 and can just imagine if I had done it 30
years ago. You have a wonderful mother and we look forward to getting to
know you. Please please ask us any question you have. I know you have some
knowledge of the DS since your mother had it but you are still bound to have
questions. We are very open here and talk about everything from the types of
BM's we have to sex to our dreams and fears and anything else you can think
about. There is always someone here who knows how you feel about something.
I'm glad you are here and can't wait for October to hear you are on the
other side. My name is Wendy but I always sign things .......W

Your Mileage May Vary
Becca

Hi Dr M my name is arwen I am Diane Stepaks daughter. I
have just got the groups site imfo and joined today. I feel so much
calmer from seeing your picture, you look soft and caring. I have
been BIG since age 12 right now i am 292 lbs at 5'9 i am thankfull
for my height My mother just surprised me with this news of my
surgury on my 34TH birthday on fri the 13TH
compleet shock and really just cried all day and some .I have now
only just begun to fantasize about how my life will change .
rollerskating horseback riding camping and a renued sex/love life
w/ my boyfriend!! my children ,two teenage boys have never known me
as fit or healthy and i gleam inside to think of all the things i
will be able to do W/ them now. I will no longer worry about where to
sit in restraunts or have to turn down offers to go on walks
w/neighbors or turn down athletic activites!! i look forward to
meeting you because i know you will change my life i am comming
in late oct i am also looking forward to chatting and
sharing stories on line in your group lots of love ARWEN

i had kidney stones about 8 years BEFORE having the DS..........and
was not a big tea drinker at the time.
as George says........YMMV.
hugs.
joanne

Wow Andy,
You are doing great! Thanks for updating us. Keep up the good work. What
show are you rehearsing for? I know what you mean about your mind not
catching up to your body. I still see me as much larger than I actually am.
Hopefully our minds will eventually catch up!
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

Hi George,
Are the oylates in decaf tea also? I drink mostly Luzianne Decaf iced tea
sweetened with Splenda that I make here at home. Every once in awhile I will
have regular iced tea if I am at a restaurant and really want it otherwise I
just order water. I have had a few sodas lately (mostly at the movies) and
they haven't caused me any problems, but I don't make a habit of it. I have
also found the Talking Rain Diet Ice Botanicals are good if you get them
really cold first. They come in a variety pack of 4 different flavors. I
usually find them at Sam's or Costco.
HTH,
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

Ya'll are freaking me out again! Is regular (NOT decaf) iced tea
sweetened with splenda, okay? I KNOW decaf is always BETTER, but is
caffeine a problem post op?? And what about carbonated drinks. I
mostly always drink iced tea, but occasionally want a diet Dr.
Pepper....how long post op before carbonated drinks...forever or a
few months?

In a message dated 8/21/04 12:07:45 PM, gleppla1@... writes:
I am 3 1/2 weeks out.
I drink Isopure in the glass bottles from Vitamin Shoppe
Gatorade (yumm) hated it b4 surgery!
Crystal Light (especially fruit punch)
Decaf tea
Green tea
water w/ice (the store kind, never my own cubes theyre yukky)
I did order some of the coconut water online but it hasnt arrived =(
Sorry not such a great variety but I try LOL
I also tried the flavored waters but didnt care much for em.
HTH, Margie

Since the operation I had been getting in my daily liquid requirements by
drinking over 2 quarts a day of Crystal Light Diet Iced Tea (caffeine free).
But... since the DS I ahve had two bouts with kidney stones and one of the
big factors in forming these is the oxylates found in tea. (BTW- DS people
aren't any more prone to kidney stones than any one else... I'm just lucky)
So what do you guys drink? I have been drinking plain water but that is so
boring and bland. Lemonaid is out for me because the acid annoys my
stomach.
Any ideas?
George in PA

Andy...would love to see before and after pics. Are they posted
anywhere? Congratulations on your success. You sound like a neat
guy!
Lisa
Hoping for Oct. 5

Hi All,
I've been awful about giving updates as to how everything is
going. I've become quite busy...work is hectic and I'm rehearsing
for a show that opens Labor Day weekend.
I'm 10 days shy of being 5 months out. Things are going
wonderfully...at least I think so. =) I still say, this is the
best damn thing I've ever decided to do for myself.
Last time I stepped on the scale I was down 86 pounds. I now
weigh less than my father...only by a few pounds, but less that
Dad! =) That's been a VERY long time since that sentance were
true. I'm now in a size 36 pants. I haven't worn a 36 since middle
school...around 6th or 7th grade. I'm taking clothes from my
brother's closet now. That's NEVER happened! I can wear a large
very comfortably and in some cuts a medium. I had to buy a pair of
silk PJs as a costume for the show I'm currently working on, and
they're medium top and bottoms! I couldn't freakin believe it!
I had my labs drawn last month and things are great. I JUST
sent the results to Dr. M though. My Dr. took FOREVER in sending me
copies for Dr. M. I think everything is going well on the
suppliment front. I take three Centrum a day. One in the AM, one
at lunch, and one before bed. I also take prescription
potassium...my PCP prescribed that before I came of my BP meds...I
was having bad leg cramps. I take 2 ADEKs a day, one in the AM, one
PM. I take 500 mg of Calcium in the AM, and zinc twice a day, 60 mg
each time. Lately I've been taking additional C becuase I'm feelin
kinda sick. Blah. =) So, Ams, the vitamin expert, does this seem
ok? I've been freakin out about supplimentation...but the labs seem
good. Then again, I'm not a Dr...I'm waiting for Dr M's response.
I'm doing well with my protein intake. I get most of it in
with actual food. I'm relying less and less on the shakes and
bars. However, I still have them. I've turned my protein shakes
into a treat at night. If I have one, I'll make a small milkshake
and put the protein powder in there. 20 grams of protein never
tasted so good. Water tastes absolutely gag inducing to me again.
So, I'm really struggling as of late with my water intake. Though
it gags me, I'm still managing 45 to 50 ounces a day. I know it
needs to be more...and I'm working on it.
Speaking of gagging...my gag reflex is still heightened. But,
it's not as bad as it was while I was in Brazil. So, I guess that's
good. Hmm...what else...
Another thing I've noticed, and quite frankly, so has Erica, is
that I get hit on more now. She says that 90% of the time I'm
oblivious to it. I guess that a male thing. But, honestly, it
DIDN'T happen before so it's not something I EVER picked up on.
But, it does happen now. And it amazes me how some women have the
balls to do it right in front of Erica. We don't somther each other
in public, but we usually always hold hands. And sometimes that
doesn't deter these women. I think my defintion of being hit on or
flirted with is different than Erica's, but she insists it happens
more than I think.
I'm at the point where the hair is falling out. I'm ready for
that to stop any time now. I hate washing my hair and having a bit
in my hands every time. And yes, I'm bitching, but I'm willing to
deal with it. This is still the best thing I've done for myself.
I also noticed that my mental image of myself has NOT caught up
to where my body is. I still see the fat guy in the mirror, I still
see the huge stomach I had, I still look at clothes and say "Jesus,
I'd love to wear that, but it's WAY too small." Sometimes Erica
will literally force me to try things on to get me to realize I'm
not the man I once was. I still head straight for the Fat Guy
section and look there first. My Mom, my brother, Erica, whomever
I'm with will guide me to the "normal" section. Hopefully soon I'll
realized what I look like and it wont be such a mental battle.
Okay...I've been long winded. I'm trying to get around and
read as much as possible. If anyone wants to email me personally,
please feel free to do so at AnActor at comcast dot net. =) Take
care!
Andy in Bremerton
Surgery with Dr. Marchesini March 30, 2004
-86 pounds

You didn't offend me at all Tracy and you have nothing to apologize for.
It's just people here are so wonderful and periodically someone says I
should apply to Extreme Makeover or The Swan or one of those other shows. I
thought about it seriously a long time ago and decided that it isn't for me.
That isn't my personality. But people who suggest it are doing it to be
helpful and I fully understand that. It's just each one of us knows what we
will and will not do to get where we want to be and for each one of us the
list is different. Thanks for caring. Don't ever apologize for that. W

Oprah is VERY negative about weight loss surgery. She calls it the easy way
out and when she did have someone on her show who had it she emphasized the
RNY and how little the person could eat and how he vomited and she then
spent the rest of the show talking about diets. She and Dr. Phil are NOT
champions of WLS. W

It's not a matter of pulling strings. If he runs true to form you will hear
before Monday and most likely sooner. Tomorrow morning he has something
personal going on but I have no idea what the rest of his weekend is like.
He has patients and other stuff. I promise he will write and I have no
influence. No single person does. He isn't like that. W

Hi All,
I've joined, but I'm still reading messages at the old site just
so that I can get caught up. I'm behind! OY!!
~~Andy

Wendy - I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I haven't even seen
extreme makeovers. My friend was just provided with funds and options of many
docs.
The episode that my other friend was interviewed for was a show to honor the
strugglers. No, I would never want to show myself evolving in public either. I
will be much more sensitive about what I write to others in the future.
Please forgive me,
Tracy

Thanks Wendy! It kind of snuck up on me too. I can't believe it is almost a
year since I was in Curitiba. My hubby and I went to a baseball game last
week and I was able to get out of the car and walk to the stadium and then
stand in line for tickets for an hour, which I could never have done a year
ago. Then when the game was over, I walked down all the ramps (escalators
weren't working) and walked all the way to the car. It is such a miracle to
me. I didn't even have to stop and rest and wasn't out of breath by the time
we got to the car. I was happy dancing for sure that night. Even if I don't
get to goal, I'm a very happy girl.
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?
Val

Wow Val....how did you sneak up so close to goal without me noticing it? I
am doing a happy dance in my head right now for how well you are doing.
Eventually I'll do happy dances for real. Anyway, I like your numbers. W

Wendy,
I'm just going to think positive and know that Dr. M. will come up with some
good news for you. I know if there is any way possible he will find it. You
have come so far and have had it so much harder than most, so I know that
you will overcome this obstacle also. Keep your chin up and we'll all be
doing a happy dance when you get this one solved!
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

my understanding is that oprah is freaked out by, and
down on, wls.
diane

OK I knew that I would catch some slack over this post..........go ahead,
tear me to pieces and throw me to the wind........ chew me up and spit me
out..... you know all the sayings!
When all avenues are exhausted, go to a different road. Hey, I very young
friend of mine had a massive heart attack 3 years ago. No money, insurance maxed
out. Husband self employeed and a baby 8 months old. The only way for her to
have the transplant that she needed was to have $50,000 up front. She didn't
even have $500! But, through a brainstorming session, a plan was made to
present to Mark Cuban (young owner of the Dallas Mavericks) for all you
non-Texans
- and now she has a new heart!!
Where there is a will - there is a way. I have another friend who was a
prescription drug addict most of her adult life. She wrote her story, sent it to
Dr. Phil and got a spot on a show he did about recovering addicts.
Well, we are food addicts and we will not live unless drastic changes are
made. Put the two together and you have GREAT RATINGS. (Besides many folks
consider us freaks anyway - if that didn't work--- we could go to Jerry
Springer!!!!! LOL I think if I don't stop laughing I will wet my pants.
Tracy

Sorry....over the last year people say everything from Oprah to Extreme
Makeover and to all sorts of other shows I don't watch. I know you mean
well but I would never want to do it for a TV show. I have a need to be in
charge and not have other people choosing my doctor, not letting me see
results until the reveal, deciding what I want done when, etc. I am not
looking for perfection. I want enough removed from my lower body so I can
have knee surgery that will succeed and so that I am in proportion and wear
the same size upper and lower body. Right now I cannot even buy a bath robe
since something that zips or snaps or buttons across my hips would be 6-7
sizes too big on top. I don't care about the final result in that way. I
wear 2 sizes larger pants than I did last March. Good suggestion for some
people but I know I will find a doctor and I will do the choosing. Besides
I may talk about personal things here but that is my choice. I value my
privacy and wouldn't want the world to watch me evolve. Thanks for trying
though. Much appreciated. W

Call Oprah Winfrey!
Tracy.....I KNEW you and I had a good vibe!! I swear Oprah and I are
going to be best friends one day! I just KNOW it!! I KNOW she'll
like hanging out with me more than that Gayle chic!! I just LOVE
her! And you're absolutely right, if I was Oprah, I'd fix Wanda's PS
problem! Go for it!
Oprah's best friend,
Lisa

Susan & Wendy -
I think that is a fabulous idea. Now, I know what I am about to write is
going to sound hokey but........ Call Oprah Winfrey! You know how supportive she
is of weight loss. She has more money & contacts than we could ever imagine and
she dedicates a large portion of her$$ to helping people when it seemed like
all hope was lost. If you will prepare an outline with pertinent information
- I would be happy to prepare a presentation to be mailed to her and at that
time, request a meeting. Don't give up. Some of the strangest success stories
come from WWWAAAAAAAAYY off the wall.
When you get through rolling your eyes and pick yourself up off the ground
from laughing so hard. Give it a thought, I'm always here.
Tracy

Heck.....I told my daughter that other people have a Plan B or a Plan C for
things that happen in life. I'm probably about Plan M or maybe Plan P. I
will definitely keep your email in mind in case I need a Plan T or Plan Z.
If I have to go to AA or BB I will be rather angry at the powers that be.
<g

Linda...I had both. By 3 months out I could eat cottage cheese or yogurt if
I took a Lactaid Ultra chewable tablet with it but I could not drink milk.
I also had diarrhea 24/7 for close to 3 months and had a long list of
things that made it worse. By the 4th and 5th month the diarrhea finally
slowed down but I still could not drink milk. I couldn't eat bacon or nuts
or many other things yet either. By now I can eat absolutely everything and
simple carbs/fats/etc do not bother me at all. Frankly I am so happy with
my soy milk in my protein drink I haven't bothered to see if I can drink
real milk. But I can eat ice cream and every other dairy product without
the Lactaid Ultra so I might be able to drink real milk. It's just that
since I don't do my own shopping and milk spoils more quickly than Soy milk
for me it is easier to have my volunteer buy me 3-4 half gallons of soy milk
so I am well stocked up for a few weeks. Real milk spoils when a person
lives alone and needs to be purchased more frequently. I am a couple weeks
beyond one year out. W

Wendy, this is really out there...but I was watching a show on the discovery
channel about several people who had lost a lot of weight. Some with surgery
and some through other means. The focus of the show was plastic surgery
following massive weight loss.
It focused on a plastic surgery group in New York called the Long Island Plastic
Surgery Group. Almost all of their patients were weight loss patients. They
took patients that other plastic surgeons refused to help. This may not be a
viable alternative but I have just kept it in the back of my mind that they were
willing to help those that others thought too risky.
Kathy B in KC

Gloria....not a bad idea although people would need to take that info with
a grain of salt since our bodies are all so very different in end results.
I don't do technical though. <g
to people who know what they are doing. W

Hi Robin,
Doc M does sometimes get a few days behind in answering emails. He tries to
get caught up over the weekend. If you haven't heard from him Monday or
Tuesday then you should probably email him again in case the first one got
lost.
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio
_____
From: saipanmom [mailto:jkrdrmom@...]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:47 PM

As I've said the problem is more clinic vs hospital than other things. Dr.
M is talking with Dr. C in the morning and I will abide with whatever the
two decide. I had a blood clot in my heart last year for nearly a year
because of atrial fibrillation. They both are gone now but I do have a clot
history. But that is not the primary concern of his. W

Dear Friends,
I am curious if the people who had trouble with milk were having lactose
problems or fat problems. I am OK with very skim milk and this is my 11th
day post op. I mix just a little very skim milk in soup mix.
Speaking of my computer contract: As I am here from Aug 5-24, the whole
month price was just a bit more than the per diem for all that time.
I have called Konstantin's room so many times not finding him in, I imagine
he is doing quite a bit of walking. Ana tells me she is taxi-ing him & his
wife to the beach this weekend, so he must be OK.
Janet had a bad time at the dentist today. Anna's aunt/dentist doesn't do
extractions so she invited a colleague to work on Janet...and that colleague
was "very incompetent". Janet is sleeping with pain medicine thanks to Dr.
C's surgery yesterday. Poor lady. If you need teeth extraction, maybe you
should NOT do it here in cheap Brazil, she urges me to put on the internet.
Peace,
Linda

have you talked with the doc about a greenfield filter..its placed in an artery
to catch any clots that might form
Darlene in Tx

Hi,
I sent an email to Dr M with some information that he requested. I
also requested a Surgery Date. It has been several days and I have
not heard from him. Is it usual for him to take this long to
answer? Should I call the office for a Date? I am not sure what to
do. I am probably just being impatient.
Thanks
Robin G

See my other message. The stockings sad to say are not an option. W

Val...I should have said there is no stocking that fits my legs. Even
diabetic wide calf socks leave an imprint like a rubber band. Thanks for
the offer though but I will even have to have compression garments specially
made when the time comes. They do custom make them though thank goodness.
W

I love that idea...I certainly want to be sure MY common channel is
short enough! Just in case anyone ever sees it! LOL No
really....it would be interesting to see the lenght of everyone's CC
along with their progress.

I had a long visit with my cardiologist today. She is wonderful. She told
me that if it is a hospital/clinic situation then she can't help me but if
it is primarily a blood clot concern if she can send me to Brazil with new
anti clotting meds that he might not have access to and she would be very
glad to send some to him. I doubt that is his primary reason but it is
wonderful to have a doctor so supportive. Also, she relieved my mind about
another issue.....I asked her that if I had a 6-9 hour surgery under
anesthetic and had a lot of blood loss etc which is normal sometimes with
PS would she have trouble approving it? I wanted to know now. She said
that she would give me a stress test 2 weeks before as she would with any
pre op patient but she cannot see any reason not to approve it. She said
the DS saved my life and she had doubts about last year but knew it was my
only answer but she has no doubts now at all. I also learned I've only
lost 27 pounds since she saw me 6 months ago and only 9 since she saw me in
late May. It is obvious that my being a revision gave me a very short
window and I am carrying the fat cells on my lower body. She agrees with
others that more weight loss from the DS is highly unlikely. She also had
to increase my BP meds yet again as my BP has worsened. I continue to defy
the usual WLS patterns in every respect. I now need more monitoring than I
ever did before and must do it daily which was never even necessary when I
had CHF and weighed 410. I now take 2 BP pills 2X a day plus wear a patch
that I change every 3 days. Most unusual. W

Hello George, Wendy et all!
One possible addition to the new database would be
the length of the common channel and 'stomach' size. Dr M
does vary this to suit the individual patient and it
might be interesting to track the variations.
Just a suggestion! Gloria in Chicago

Hi Wendy,
Well, the news was just talking about elastic compression stockings to help
prevent blood clots from breaking off and traveling to the lungs. So,
nothing really new, but maybe a little ammunition for you if they are
worried about blood clots. Good luck on the appointment.
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

Wendy,
I am so sorry to hear about Dr. C. turning you down. Don't give up hope! I
just know that you will find a good solution. I'm just really wanting this
to be resolved for you right now. I'll be praying for your appointment with
the doctor in Elariny's office.
I just saw a blurb for tonight's news about new stockings that prevent blood
clots from forming. I'll listen for the details and let you know. Maybe this
would reassure Dr. C.. for the trip home.
Hugs to you!
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

David,
Try taking Lactaid with your first bite of dairy products. That should help
significantly. My husband has had very severe lactose intolerance, but its
severity sort of ebbs and flows. When he gets confident he can eat cheese, etc,
without Lactaid he'll carry it too far and have another "attack." (His stomach
cramps get so bad that his face turns grey and he falls to the ground wherever
he is... front yard, parking lot, icky public restroom, emergency room... He
once was in intensive care for 3 days with the doctors trying to figure out what
was wrong with him. They never diagnosed it. He still won't eat the dip he
tried just before his first major attack [the one that led to intensive care.])
At any rate... before my surgery I was wondering if I was also becoming lactose
intolerant, and SINCE my surgery, I definitely am. The Lactaid helps a LOT.
But if milk is your major offender, you may want to keep that to a minimum.
Of course, I'm no doctor.
:)
Nina
David Shriver <shriver@...
Hello everyone,
About a week post-op I had a protein shake made with milk. I had a really
bad reaction to the milk and decided I was probably lactose intolerant. I
had had trouble with lactose as a kid so this wasn't all that surprising to
me.
I'm 6 weeks (and 3 days) post-op now and I decided to try some milk again.
ACK big big mistake. For 30 minutes I was fine, then the cramping, gas,
nausea, and diarrhea hit. I've been pretty miserable ever since.
So here are my questions for you. Will my lactose intolerance be permanent?
Is there anything I can take that will help me with it?
I know one thing's for certain. It's going to be a long time before I try
milk again.
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio

Hi Dave,
I have times where milk doesn't bother me at all and then it will be a
problem again. I have gotten to where I take Lactaid with the first sip of
milk or if I eat ice cream. It does the trick for me. I don't have the gas
and diarrhea when I do this. I never have any problem with cheese, but I
know some people do. For me the culprits are milk or ice cream. I don't know
if it will permanently be like this, but it is easy to take the Lactaid and
not risk it. Hope that helps!
Val in TX
DS 09/30/03
286/160/135-140?

I am leaving tomorrow - I will definitely check out "the box"!
Vicki

Linda - do you mean that the hotel charges you for a whole month for
computer hookup?? I thought it was a very small charge by the day or
week.
Vicki
PS It is very nice of you to offer your hookup and wheelchair!

Hello everyone,
About a week post-op I had a protein shake made with milk. I had a really
bad reaction to the milk and decided I was probably lactose intolerant. I
had had trouble with lactose as a kid so this wasn't all that surprising to
me.
I'm 6 weeks (and 3 days) post-op now and I decided to try some milk again.
ACK big big mistake. For 30 minutes I was fine, then the cramping, gas,
nausea, and diarrhea hit. I've been pretty miserable ever since.
So here are my questions for you. Will my lactose intolerance be permanent?
Is there anything I can take that will help me with it?
I know one thing's for certain. It's going to be a long time before I try
milk again.
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio

Hi, Morgan!!!
Call Dr. M... or email him. Or go to your doctor here. Don't keep hurting!
Also, let Dr. M know about your weight loss and see if he has any suggestions.
Post some pictures! I know you look beautiful!
:)
Nina
savannahjayde <savannahjayde@...
Well guys, things have been going pretty well. I'm happy with my
surgery. Though kind of bum that after only 35 pounds my weight
loss has slowed down to the bare reach of nothing. I'm not
exercising though and I know that would help - I'm just so dang
busy. Anyway, the main reason I'm posting is that my incision has
really started hurting lately. Everytime I sneeze, cough, laugh -
it hurts something horrible. It really hasn't felt like this in
like 10 weeks so I'm concerned. I thought it would go away in a few
days but I'm going on a week and a half in pain. I hesitate to go
to the doctor because there's nothing visably wrong and I don't know
that they could do anything. I'm still wearing my binder even
though I'm not supposed to have to anymore. Does anyone have any
idea what could be causing this???
Thanks!
Morgan
05/04/04

Does anyone know how Konstantin is doing? We have not heard a thing
from him and I am wondering if he is OK.
Becca

doctor--
everything sounds fine to me--let's book it--but i still
haven't heard from dr. marchesini about timing for my
daughter's surgery. that is of the essence. can you
perhaps call him and ask about the scheduling? i have
sent him three letters now.
the third week of october looks good to me, if everything
else falls into place. is that good for you?
i have no navel at all. i had a tummy tuck about 10
years ago and my navel was removed along with
excess skin. my abdomen is just a blank--nothing there.
i would need a navel constructed from the beginning.
last--isn't it possible to do all my work in one surgery? i
would very much prefer that!
thank you, and i await hearing from you again.
diane

Well guys, things have been going pretty well. I'm happy with my
surgery. Though kind of bum that after only 35 pounds my weight
loss has slowed down to the bare reach of nothing. I'm not
exercising though and I know that would help - I'm just so dang
busy. Anyway, the main reason I'm posting is that my incision has
really started hurting lately. Everytime I sneeze, cough, laugh -
it hurts something horrible. It really hasn't felt like this in
like 10 weeks so I'm concerned. I thought it would go away in a few
days but I'm going on a week and a half in pain. I hesitate to go
to the doctor because there's nothing visably wrong and I don't know
that they could do anything. I'm still wearing my binder even
though I'm not supposed to have to anymore. Does anyone have any
idea what could be causing this???
Thanks!
Morgan
05/04/04

Val? Email me when you read this please. I thought I saved your
post with your phone number and email and I can't find it. I need to
talk to you about a loving caring PCP that loves chubby people
wanting to have WLS in the Dallas area! Can you help?
Lisa

Hi Robin,

ok ok ok....I hope to be there in Oct and I definitely will be digiin
around in the box!!
48 an fat..but gonna be
50 and FABULOUS!!! healthy too
Darlene in Tx

Would SOMEBODY go get SOMETHING out of the DANG BOXES!!!
lol...KIDDING!!
You are sooo funny about those boxes!!! LOL
Lisa

WOW George! What an amazing website! Reading your experience in
Curitiba is so comforting and so full of information that we all
wonder about. Everybody that visits here needs to read that! Great
job!
Lisa

Speaking of leaving stuff. I am thinking about leaving some or all of my
sleeveless undershirt type shirts ("wife-beaters" is not a word I could
use!) and Janet may leave a robe. I could leave one of my Dale Binders (I
have 3 in different sizes LOL) as I'll soon be in the land of automatic
washing machines and dryers if that will help people with their packing
anxieties.
But darn it, no one is coming and getting anything out of the boxes.
Linda

Has anyone had their binder made in Brazil by Yoga? They sound comfy,
but I wanted to see if anyone had worn one. If so... do they roll?
Are they hot? etc. etc. Thanks to all!
Tracy

Dear Folks,
When I got my computer set-up, I had to pay for a whole month, and of course
I leave next Tuesday, so I don't see why I couldn't give the rest of my
month to someone coming in as I'm leaving. Let me know, if you want it.
Also I rented a wheel chair. I am using it very little, if anyone here now
wants to borrow it, come to Room 405, I'm pretty much in in the mornings and
evenings. Yes, it's wide.
Linda the Lazy

Hi,
How do you post pictures? I took a picture and scanned it into my
computer, but have no idea how to get it on this web site.
Robin G in St. Louis

Hi Lisa,
Remember to check out the Doc M photo annex group too. There are lots of
pictures there.

I wish you would all post pics of yourselves in the photo section! I
love looking at them and there is not very many there! I think this
whole process is just amazing! I even love just looking at the
Brazil pics....like I'm looking at your vacation photo album! Are
most of the post ops already there? I'll send pics when I get there
and back...you can bet your booty! I want the WORLD to see what I
did!! Especially traveling to Brazil by myself! I am woman!!

Hi Linda
Congrats on your weight loss!
The plastic tubs came from Wal-Mart.
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio
_____
From: Linda Donan [mailto:donan@...]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:32 AM

Hi Lisa,
Oh don't worry it's not a tiny little plane. In fact the pilot only asked
us to help pedal a few times. :-) Seriously though, my flight (both to and
from Curitiba) was a jet. It was very similar to the plane I had between
Cincinnati and Miami.
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio
_____
From: Lisa Cooper [mailto:lcooperett@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:51 PM

Hi Diane,
Yes you have to have an endoscopy. Many of us have chosen to have it done
by Doc M's son in Brazil. The cost to have it done in Brazil is $100 and it
takes about 15 minutes. With the medications they give you most people
never even remember having it.
Clear Skies,
Dave "who was the exception to that rule" in Ohio
_____
From: zinnia55@... [mailto:zinnia55@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:31 PM

there were 3 of us in the chat room this am!!!! it was soooo nice...gonna try
for 8am, 12noon and 8pm..cst.......hope to see yall there

I'll be hangin out in the chat room for a bit if anyone wants to
join.....btw...its 7:55am in Texas
Darlene in Tx

I had a 4 hour layover in Sao Paulo. I went through Immigration and
Customs and that took 1 1/2 hours. I went to the counter and got my
boarding pass, then I went to my gate. I had a book and I read until it
was time to leave.
Becca

Ten days from surgery, got my first visit to Dr. M's pretty office. He says
my incision is looking really good. And I got weighed and found I've lost
14 pounds. I put it on the database. Still feeling a bit puny compared to
Janet who is a powerhouse even after her eye surgery. We went to the
Botanical Gardens yesterday. The good news is the pills Dr. M. suggested I
take 3 times a day, dried up my diarrhea with only one a day!!
As for eggs, I make mine in the kitchen of the hotel room. One large egg
separated from its yolk (which carries the fat) and then flavored up with a
tablespoon of the low fat cottage cheese, makes a nice breakfast. I can
also take a spoon of my no-sugar jello (I'm working on a package of
raspberry or blackberry, I'm not sure of the Portuguese) now with breakfast
and pretend like my omelette is kind of a blintz (sp?)
Again to the people here at the Parthenon. The 3 American boxes are in my
room, just waiting for someone to come get something. I can't recommend
enough that post-ops check out all the bouillon and drink mixes, pre-ops
come get the translation cards for using in the hospital, and people about
to fly, come take a book or magazine. Someone has suggested we get a fourth
box and leave clothing behind. I was really amazed how much I appreciated
having gotten a llama wrap for my post-op shuffles down those cold hospital
hallways and if there were a robe or two left behind for folks who didn't
pack one along, that would be nice, I think. Where do we get the plastic
tubs for the American box stuff, does anyone know?
Linda the loser

Thanks Wendy......It will happen and somewhere down the road when someone
else is moaning and groaning about PS and they have no money and can't find
a doctor I'll be able to say "been there, done that". W

Oh, Wendy....I am so, so sorry. You must be so disappointed. We all
need to keep you in our prayers because as you well know something
has to be done for you at some point. I don't know where or when,
but I'm hoping for you soon. I wish I could say or do more. Maybe
Dr. M will come be able to pull something off.
Again, I'm so very sorry. I'm hoping you get this surgery for
yourself more than anyone else I know (including myself and my
husband). I can't imagine what it must feel like to have that heavy,
sagging skin on your legs and knees.
Don't they all realize you have got to have this removed so you can
become more mobile? Surely someone, somewhere will help you.
Sorry...I was going to quit last paragraph. Just wanted you to know
that I feel for you....but I also believe that eventually something
will work out for you. I just know it.
Susan in WA

I have an appointment next Thursday with someone named Dr. Saba who is a
plastic surgeon who now shares Dr. Elariny's office. At least he certainly
is experienced with weight loss patients. We'll see what happens. My pity
parties don't last long. I always have a plan of action. Sometimes it is a
virtue and sometimes it drives people crazy and they consider it a vice.
We'll see which this is. W

I may not be able to go to Brazil. Dr. C turned me down for surgery for
several reasons. It is a big blow and Dr. M is going to talk to him but if
Dr. M agrees with Dr C I will have to bow to their judgement. His reasons
are sound medically...just a major disappointment. Dr. C feels that I need
major hospitalization and his clinic isn't properly equipped for
complications I could have. Also, since the work I need is major lower body
work and especially the backs of the knees and thighs he is concerned about
blood clots for a long airplane flight. I had eliminated Dr. Fabio already
but if Dr. M agrees with Dr. C then obviously going to Fabio would also be
foolish. The plane trip is the same. So...I am hoping that somehow we can
work something out but at the moment I have now had 5 plastic surgeons turn
me down....1 in Brazil, 2 in Costa Rica and 2 in America. I have an
appointment with a plastic surgeon here for next Thursday. He shares an
office with Dr. Elariny and we'll see what happens there. Although I can't
afford him let's see what his opinion is before I even worry about $$$$$$$.
This has been a terrible week for me with about 5 different major things
going wrong. W

Gosh, Wendy. I didn't realize it had been that recent for you. Seems
like you've been around all the sites forever! - lol!
I absolutely can't wait until you go back to Brazil (if you go) and see
what happens after your plastic surgery. I'll bet you could get the
award for most dramatic change.
Susan in WA

Hi Isha!
What time do you arrive in Sao Paulo? Maybe we can meet each other
there and chat awhile. I will arrive at 7:52 am and lay over til
1:25 pm arriving in Curitiba at 2:25 pm. At least they upgraded me
to first class since they switched my flights....but that 5 1/2 hour
layover won't be any fun!
So you will arrive in Curitiba around 11:00 am and I will arrive at
about 2:30 pm. Sounds like Durval will be hopping back and forth to
the airport all day! Hey! Don't let him forget to pick me up, too!!!
See ya!
Vicki

Nope - a big fat jet, actually a Boeing 767 300 thru Varig airlines.
Varig flys into New York as well and maybe other US cities...don't
know. Flying doesn't worry me at all....it's getting to the right
gate in time that is stressful.
Vicki

Diane - It is true. I have all my other tests scheduled but I dread
the endo. I would like to have it done here before I leave and not
waste the couple of days that I will arrive in Brazil before my
surgery. But... I'm not sure that my doc is going to get it
scheduled. I have written Dr. M and told him that I will most likely
have it when I get to Brazil.
A doctor that I had spoken to in Columbia does the endoscopy prior to
his surgeries, also. I suspect that most do - but that they do it
when you are under anesthesia asleep, prior to the cutting. Just a
guess - I really don't know.
I am terrified of this! I would rather be cut open than to have
something put down my throat!! (I know that they stick stuff down ya
and up ya after your asleep - that's OK! - as long as I don't know
about it....FINE) Can others relay their experiences with the endo...
I'm scared.
Tracy

i just noticed that dr. m requires and endoscopy. i never
heard of another bariatric surgeon requiring this.
is this true?
diane

Did I spell that right? I already have a little fear of
flying....not enough to keep me on the ground, but enough to make me
cry at landings and takeoffs, and alcohol makes the tears turn into
uncontrollable sobbing. I'm sorry I can never just get to the point
and move on. My question is, this is not some little puddle jumper
airplane that takes us into Curitiba, is it???
Lisa

Vicki****GodSpeed! Have a wonderful trip and a great surgery!!! Prayers will be
wingin your way....
Darlene in Tx

ONE SUITCASE AND A CARRYON? THAT stresses ME out! Is that a rule?
I am a major procrastinator, also. Late everywhere I go and everyone
that knows me....just knows that I'll be late! Now that I have the
TWO babies....I have one heck of a time just SHOWING UP!! Good luck
and congratulations on getting to finally LEAVE! Don't worry about
too much, though...I'm sure that whatever you forget (if you forget
anything at all) won't be anything that you can't buy once you get
there if it's needed that badly!
Lisa

Susan..I found the Ds site and surgery in February 2003 so I never saw
anything prior to that date. W

I am shooting for sometime in October, I might be going alone though
because I have kids in school. Dh might not be able to get off or not
want to go etc.... I emailed Dr M and am waiting for a reply.
Robin G in St. Louis

It has been 3 weeks since my revision. I am not sure how the mesh ring
is working on my stomach, since I am trying not to eat very much. In
time, I will be able to tell you more. I have not really "tested" it yet.
My common channel is 65cm. I can not tell a difference in my bowel
movements. In fact, it has not changed my bowel movements at all. Most
of the time, I go once in the morning and that is it. I really thought
it would change my bowels, but it did not. Woo-hoo for that!
Becca

Tomorrow is my last day at work until after surgery. I leave on
Saturday. I do have a piece of advice for pre-ops. Don't leave too
much to the last minute. I am a terrible procrastinator! I left too
much for the last few days and am stressed out and so tired I could
drop! I haven't been able to sleep much because I'm staying up
trying to think of what I might have forgotten! Silly maybe....but I
can't help it!
Isha, girlfriend, are you nearly as stressed as I am? Isha is
leaving Saturday, too, I believe. My flights have changed and I
don't know if we will be on the same plane from Sao Paulo now or
not. My new flight from Sao Paulo to Curitiba is #2323L leaving at
1:25 pm and arriving in Curitiba at 2:25 pm. Did your flight change
or are you the same? I emailed Dr. M to have Durval pick me (us?) up
at the airport on Sunday.
Gosh, there are soooo many things to think of! Pre-ops....take care
of as much of this stuff as you can early on. Make lists of what you
need to bring and things you need to do, phone numbers for family and
friends, email addresses for everyone, who is taking care of the dog,
who will mow your lawn, deposit sufficient funds in your accounts to
take care of automatic deductions, stop your mail temporarily, pay
your bills up to date, clean out your refrigerator, etc., etc., etc.
Well, I'd better get back to stuffing everything into one suitcase
and a carryon...LOL. Wish me luck!
Vicki in West Virginia
Soon to be SWITCHED

Hi Lisa,
I'm sure there will be Doc M patients there in October. Also many Americans
go to Doc C for plastics so there may be some of his patients there in
October too.
As far as taking someone with you goes, you're right its hard to get the
free time for both yourself and your support person. I had originally
planned to go alone, but luckily my mother insisted in going with me (and
I'm so glad she did). She's a teacher so we went when she was on summer
break. I run my own business and I just shut it down for a month though
this cost me quite a lot of money.
Like so many things with the DS, if you want to make it happen, no matter
how hard it is, you will. Does your husband not get vacation time?
Clear Skies,
Dave in Ohio
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From: Lisa Cooper [mailto:lcooperett@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:14 PM

Hi Wendy,
I'm sure you don't remember my post back in 2002 re my mammo about 1
year post op. I had lost about 90 pounds then and just didn't think
about it. I knew the technican was acting funny. She was taking a long
time and came back and got old pictures and went back in and looked and
looked and looked.
I was thinking "Oh, no, I'm finally feeling better and losing weight and
now I've got breast cancer or something". She finally said something to
me and it came out that I'd lost that weight and she almost sighed with
relief and then told me my breasts looked so different from last year
and she couldn't figure it out. It's funny now - but wasn't so much
then.
Susan in WA

I was just getting my letter ready to send to Dr. M for a surgery
date. I need to ask for a surgery date of around Oct. 5. I can't go
into the next week because my twin babies, turn 1 on October 24 and I
definitely have to be back for that! The August calendar is full and
NOBODY is on October, yet, so I'm a little concerned that I'll be
there all by myself! Those of you that are looking at mid October,
maybe you could think about making it a week or so earlier?
PLEASE!!
Another question.....all of you who take people with you....HOW in
the world, do you AND they manage to get 2 full weeks off of work or
away from their obligations here at home? My husband is our only
breadwinner and he just couldn't possibly leave for that lenght of
time. Even my sister has kids, my mom is going to stay at my house
and care for my family while I'm gone, my best friend has a husband,
daughter and a career. My neighborhood best friends, kids in school
and family obligations or jobs. How do you find someone able to just
leave the country for a few weeks?? Maybe I need to "rent-a-
friend". LOL
Lisa
Shooting for Oct 5th

I'm sorry...I don't know NEARLY enough to be able to answer your
questions. I am wondering, though...
What is the length of the common channel done by Dr. M on us new
patients? Is that the same length of the common channel done by US
Drs? It seems that his length is more effective than the Dr.s in the
US? Right?
Thanks...Lisa

It's Lisa here....I'm from Dallas. Well....a suburb in the county
just east of Dallas. My sister-n-law and BIL live in Houston on
Youpon Holly Dr. I think that's on the Northeast side of town. Not
even sure...I haven't even been there, they always come up here to
visit. I think I'd like to make that meeting in Sept., too. Be sure
to "announce" it beforehand. Sounds like fun!

George, Is that preop questionaire what Dr. M wants to see first
thing? In other words is that something I should fill out and send
to him when emailing him for the first time to ask for a surgery date?
Thanks for doing all that you do.
Lisa

Renee....dont know where Lisa is but I'm just east of Houston out I 10..where
are you in La? I talked to Val about a DS support group in Dallas..might try to
make the mtg in Sept...maybe you're close enough we can meet for coffee......
48 and fat...but gonna be
50 and FABULOUS!! healthy too
Darlene in Tx

I think I'm a slow loser too, so my revision loss might be slow as well. I
expect to be able to have enough money to get this proposed revision next
spring, which will be 2 years from the original DS for me. I want to have at
least a 60 cm common channel, because of the slow weight loss tendency, and
also I know I am very good at getting in my protein and supplements and will
always be consistent about that. My sister, who got her DS from Dr. Hess in
Ohio at the same time, was given a 50 cm common channel. No asking, no
discussion, she was simply given that at the time of her surgery and told on
awakening
what she had. She has lost about 120 lbs and is now about 170 lbs, looks
great except for hanging skin. She has always told me about "seeing
recognizable salad bits" in her poop a few hours after eating that salad! I
sure never
had that experience! Now that's malabsorbtion!
Anyway, to get to the point here, I realize we're not doctor's but what
do you think I may be able to lose down to, starting at 230? I'd like to
get to 140 of course, but would be fairly happy at 170, in fact I remember
looking darn good last time I saw 170, at age 27 or so that was. I really
wouldn't want to have to go through the saving up of money, about $6500,
another
surgery and recovery and all that entails and only lose 30 lbs or something. I
think, given my current state of knowledge of this process, that I would be
extremely careful to maximize my "window" with diet and exercise, and my diet
is fairly good now and I exercise regularly already and love to. That's
because I found out what exercise I enjoy, walking. I hate gyms, don't really
care for swimming at the rec center and Curves is just OK. Don't think I'll
renew when my year runs out.
So, opinions please, what do you think my chances of losing at least 50
or 60 lbs are from a revision? Also I'd like to know more about this mesh
ring thing, what's that like? Thanks all. Kathy 1949
DS 4/03 280 lbs
now 230, weight loss stopped at 4.5 months post op.

Hi girls,
Are both of you from Texas??? Houston area??? Just wondering. I'm from Louisiana
but I have family in Sugar Land. When I went to Brazil I flew from Houston
(Bush) Intercontenintal. Not a bad flight at all. We left around 9:00 pm and
arrived early the next morning. I think the flight to Rio was about 10 hours
then another hour or so into Curitiba but we did get re-routed to San Paulo and
had an hour lay-over but it wasn't too bad. Durval was there all smiles waiting
for us!!!
Good luck
Renee
-100

I don't post often because I don't often have much to say. BUT this
topic is a HOT topic for me. I had my surgery Feb 17, 2004. The
care I received was so much better then what I would of received in
the US. I have nothing but praise for Dr.M as a person and as
physician he is incredible BUT As for Durval.... I also had many
experiences with him that left me less then thrilled with his
services. I am not a fuddy duddy... in anyway. I will not share my
many stories about my 2 weeks in Brazil and interactions with Duval
because of 2 reasons. Regardless of who or what he is. You will
still get incredible care that is far superior to what you would get
here in the US. The second reason is because I am very grateful for
my second chance at life and that was the goal. So my advice is as
follows. Go to Brazil, Enjoy the trip and trust Dr.M. It is my
understanding that if Durvall likes you - you will get better care
then if he doesn't. I can't prove that but no matter how Duval feels
about you he will not do anything to harm you. I often read all the
wonderful things people say about Durval and wonder if we are talking
about the same person. It is amazing.
Christy in Seattle
Switched Feb/17/2004
278/195/ Goal 140

hi, moderators,
i had to go hunting for the psych evaluation questions
the other day, and found them in the old group nearly all
of us have left by now. i spent some time there, and
though a lit of the links are now dead, there's a wealth
of good info, stats and stories on the old site.
sooo--are you guys going to transfer all that good stuff
to the new database?
hope so!
cheers--
diane

Amanda made a good suggestion and I have created a new database for
this group where post-ops can list their results.
PLEASE... all post-ops please take a minute to enter your
informationj in the database. It is very helpful to the new people
to see what they can expect and it is a good way to keep track of how
everyone is doing.
George in PA

I have created a new folder in the FILES section for Pre-Op people. In it
are the files for the pre-operative questionaire, the pre-op medical tests
and the pre-op psych exam.
George in PA

Amanda, that is a good idea. I'll get it set up this afternoon if I get the
chance.
George in PA

George, can you set up another database like on the other site where
people can fill in how much weight they have lost, etc.? I would do
it myself but I don't know how.
Thanks,
Amanda

Thanks Amanda, I will have to give Keto Crisp a try.
Becca

I eat a bowl of the Keto Crisp nearly every day and I actually
really